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hix
14th March 2002, 03:39
From time to time, an Aikidoka from another dojo comes to our class. At first,they are usually surprised at how few techniques we study in the course of one class. The maximum amount of techniques in one class at my dojo is from 4 to 5. That doesn`t include trainig for grading or exhibitions. By the way, we all grade on the same day.
Even though we do fewer techniques, most of the other Aikidoka seem to get frustrated at this method. I, personally, felt the same, but now I love it.
So, my question is; How many techniques do most of you cover in one class?
Thanks again.
Batemanb
14th March 2002, 06:07
It really depends on who is teaching the class, what they are trying to convey on the day and how long they let you practice each technique.
I have trained with Endo Sensei who can spend two hours teaching Ikkyo (like he did last weekend), or Namba Sensei who spends at least 30 minutes on any single technique. I have trained with others who spend less than 5 minutes on any single technique one day, but then spend 20 or 30 minutes on the same technique the following week.
I don't think it matters how many techniques you study in any one given class, they will all balance out in the long run.
David T Anderson
14th March 2002, 16:44
Hmmmm...depending on how you look at it, we only do a few techniques in any one training session...but often we will practice _variations_ on a single technique for an entire class. This applies to both taiho and sword work. It always seems like a very full class to me....
I agree that over time, variations in training practices will probably even out.
Keith Mullin
14th March 2002, 20:58
The number of techniques we practice at my dojo usualy ranges between 4 and 6. Most of the time all of them will share some aspect, a blend, a technique, or an attack. Today for example we did a bunch of double wrist grabs. Finding the balance between switching between techniques too fast, or spending too much time with one (all at once, one can never spend enough time with a technique) is important, I think. Its also important to gauge the lesson to the level of the class, spending an hour and a half on a single technique wont make much of a difference if it is too difficult for the students to effectively grasp it.
hix
14th March 2002, 22:47
This was my class last night.
Tenkan= 15 to 20 min. no variations
kotatedori kokyu nage= 15 to 20 min. no variations
We do these two techniques every class.
plus
Ushiro kubishime koshi nage= 20-30min. no variations
Ushiro kubishime san-kyo 20-30min. no variations
I understand the points of the above posts. I agree with them all. I think I may not understand my own post though:confused:
I believe I was trying to get some feedback concerning fewer vs. more techniques.
In the states we did so many techniques and variations. When I came here, it`s like I slowed down and learned how to walk again. But I think by doing this, I am learning how to walk much more solid than before.
Point lost, Yoroshiku:smilejapa
rupert
15th March 2002, 00:33
When I did Tomiki Aikido many moons ago there were many techniques every class. The 17 technique kata was often done a warm up, the teacher would add his stuff, usually quite a lot, and then there was free practice where went over what you did, or could do what you liked. A lot of stuff. Now, in Aikikai, I find far less techniques but more attention to detail. In the beginning I found it very frustrating but now I prefer it that way.
Rupert Atkinson
Ben23
24th March 2002, 00:28
You had a kata in aikido? How did that work? Was it with a Uke or solo like a Karate Kata or a Bokken Kata?
We usually only tend to do 4 or 5 techniques at most, but often a two hour lesson can be taken up with variations on a single techniqe. Sometimes learning a Bokken or Jo kata, sometimes perfecting one or two techniques. It tends to depend, but I guess its best if you are learning a new technique to go over it many times in one lesson so that it is fixed in your mind but then once you have learnt several techniques it can be useful to practice them all in one class, especially when approaching gradings but also because it can teach you to assess attacks and choose what technique would be best suited yourself allowing your aikido to flow a little more.
Ben Gough-Cooper
szczepan
25th March 2002, 01:51
Originally posted by hix
This was my class last night.
Tenkan= 15 to 20 min. no variations
kotatedori kokyu nage= 15 to 20 min. no variations
We do these two techniques every class.
plus
Ushiro kubishime koshi nage= 20-30min. no variations
Ushiro kubishime san-kyo 20-30min. no variations
WOW, now, it is really boring class :eek:
with the same uke?
PRehse
25th March 2002, 03:28
Originally posted by Ben23
You had a kata in aikido? How did that work? Was it with a Uke or solo like a Karate Kata or a Bokken Kata?
What Rupert is talking about are sets of techniques done with uke and tori - grouped waza.
I would say both in the classes I taught in Quebec and the classes I attend at Shodokan Honbu (Tomiki) there are 15-20 techniques taught per class. However, many of?those are from standard kata done with polishing in mind. The rest have been seen before more or less with every now and then something a little different.
HinodeBuddha
26th March 2002, 17:42
I have been told that back in the day, that a student would come to class and practice only one technique for several months. Is this information accurate? I don't know. When I teach, I like to spend as much time on a technique that is necessary for all students to become semi-comfortable with at least one aspect of a technique. This can allow for a lot or very few techniques to be practiced in a given class period.
Lyle Laizure
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