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John Lindsey
14th March 2002, 15:23
No, I am necessarily talking about vitamins or herbs, but rather drug enhancements for fighting. I first thought about this while watching the Olympics and hearing about the problems they were having with drugs, blood doping, etc. First, we should identify what we are trying to augment through drugs:

1. Physical endurance.
2. Strength augmentation.
3. Resistance to pain and damage.
4. Fear reduction

We have all heard stories of people high on PCP who exhibit extraordinary levels of strength and resistance to pain. Problem with PCP is that it effects your mind as well.

Military history has many examples of drugs being used to augment the fighting abilities of soldiers.

As for fighting/combat, are such drugs within the realm of reason, or are they still the subject of science fiction?

Kit LeBlanc
14th March 2002, 15:46
I remember reading somewhere, the source I can't recall, that methamphetamine was first formulated by the Japanese for their troops in WWII.

No idea where this came from or if it is true, though I hear "shabu" is pretty big in Japan now....like it is here.

Joseph Svinth
14th March 2002, 18:44
In 1883, the Bavarian Army experimented with issuing cocaine to its soldiers during their annual maneuvers. While the idea was to get more work from the men, the results were not what was expected and the experiment was stopped. Subsequent researches into chemically-enhanced militaries resulted in the introduction of amphetamine powders in 1927, the creation of anabolic steroids in 1958, and the integration of psychotropic drug research with virtual reality computer research in 1991. The Japanese kamikaze pilots and the American truck drivers of the Red Ball Express were among the military amphetamine users of World War II.

Artificial testosterone dates to 1935, and is based on the theories of Charles Édouard Brown-Séquard, a French physiologist who believed that injections of serums made from bull testicles would prove to be the Viagra of the day.

From what appears online, the Army's current research in the area of chemically-enhanced soldiery involves finding drugs that will reduce the need for sleep, or that will significantly reduce jet lag. Walter Reed's website appears to be down today, but for an older article on such topics, see http://www.dtic.mil/soldiers/august96/sleep.html . Equipment that delivers a constant bioscan to the commander is also under development. See, for example, http://www.usariem.army.mil/wpsm/WPSM_Web.Cognitive.html .

Steven Malanosk
14th March 2002, 18:59
The same as said above, was used by the Nazi SS.

The govt. term for the popular process of manufacturing methanfedamine, is the Nazi method.

A hightened alertness,agressive ideation and energetic surge as well as paranoia and hallucination after awhile are the biproduct. Just as if you run, your $1000000000.00 machine at full throdle every day, so will the drug quickly take its toll and wear down ones human machine.

Jeff Cook
14th March 2002, 20:09
I know when I drag my butt over to the mess tent at 0500, after three hours of sleep, they always give me a really strong cup of very foul-tasting and highly caffeinated coffee.

After drinking that, I feel like fighting and defecating.

Caffeine can be a powerful stimulant.....

Jeff Cook
Wabujitsu

Walker
14th March 2002, 22:42
:burnup: Coffee and Cigarettes :burnup:
You can’t buy a more potent laxative without a prescription. Ask your doctor about Coffee and Cigarettes today. :smokin:

Kit LeBlanc
15th March 2002, 00:47
Originally posted by Steven Malanosk


A hightened alertness,agressive ideation and energetic surge as well as paranoia and hallucination after awhile are the biproduct.

So seems to be working on one of the three junker cars on the lawn in front of your trailer home at 3 AM....

Tweekers Rule!!

:look:

joe yang
15th March 2002, 01:53
How about a fifth category, speedy recovery, that and endurance and strength are training realities. Don't know about battlefield quick fixes. Fear reduction, fascinating, never thought of that. How about hashish and alchohol? :laugh:

luihu
15th March 2002, 08:12
Originally posted by joe yang
Fear reduction, fascinating, never thought of that. How about hashish and alchohol? :laugh: [/B]

Hashis might be useful as a relaxant after combat situation. Alcohol wouldn't be as good, cos as we all know until certain point it only speeds you up and after that p(o)int it doesn't allow you to sleep well.

József Pap

Darren Laur
17th March 2002, 04:18
I think this forum thread will answer some of the questions that others are asking here.

http://www.selfdefenseforums.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=432


Strength and Honor

Darren Laur