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thumpanddump
25th March 2002, 21:45
Here is the story

I have just purchased Serge Mol's book
"A complete guide to Koryu jujutsu"

So who is the current soke of Bokuden ryu ?

Is it Kaminaga Shigemi soke or Tanemura shoto
soke ? Repsect to both parties but this is
confusing for me.

Thanks for any knowledge on this one.

G.Ricard

"The truth is everywhere - You just gotta know where to look"

:smilejapa

thumpanddump
26th March 2002, 00:27
Hi Daniel,

Thanks for the fast response and info.

But I am still not clear who is SOKE of BOKUDEN RYU
even from your comments.

I don't know who is Kai.S or Tanaka.S but I am a
student of Brasilian Jiujitsu and have been involved
in Bujinkan on and off for a couple of years. I was
looking at Koryu jujutsu to further my training.
And Serge Mols book just spurred some thought.

Thanks.

G.Ricard

:smilejapa "Think oustide the SQUARE you live" audi

thumpanddump
26th March 2002, 01:53
Daniel,

Thanks for the comments. It helps when there is info out there.
there is no way I would have found that info by myself.

It is worth mentioning - That the Tanaka site doesn't appear legal per se - No permission from Tanaka Fumon senssei. Anyway thank you

G.Ricard

:smilejapa Its not WHAT you know - its WHO you know.

fifthchamber
26th March 2002, 13:17
Hello Mr. Lee,
Thanks for the addresses to those two sites. Most informative...And the Densho photos on the Tanaka-San website are worth the look in themselves..(By the way...The site is not illegal. Just not authorized by Tanaka Fumon himself...This is made clear at the start).
I always love finding a little more out about these arts and the information on these sites is (Perhaps spelt badly:look: !!) great.
Thanks for the links...If I may ask, do you study with either Kuniyuki-San or Tanaka-San?
If so I would appreciate hearing more about the training..
Arigato..:toast:
Abayo..

Seishin
29th March 2002, 07:54
Dear all,

Kai Kuniyuki Sensei (Nobeoka, Kyushu) has officially been named the 21th soke of Bokuden Ryu by Kaminaga Shigemi Soke. He became the designated 21th soke in 1997 at a ceremony and it has been re-afirmed this year by Kaminaga Soke.

With best regards,

Flemming Madsen
Nippon Budoin Seibukan, Denmark & UK Shibu-cho

Hurtzdontit
20th May 2006, 05:26
Does this mean that there are many lines of Bokuden ryu?
Kaminaga Shigemi claims Hontai takagi yoshin ryu as well as others that Tanemura sensei does, does this mean that Ueno sensei licenced several people as soke?
Thanks

Shinobi
24th May 2006, 13:05
Does this mean that there are many lines of Bokuden ryu?
Kaminaga Shigemi claims Hontai takagi yoshin ryu as well as others that Tanemura sensei does, does this mean that Ueno sensei licenced several people as soke?
Thanks

There is Bokuden-ry jjutsu and Bokuden-ry kenjutsu, I believe they are related. The jjutsu has lost some of its material including some on weapons according to the Ueno-den booklet or Serge Mol's book. Ueno taught this style also to Sat Kinbei who in turn taught it to Tanemura. Kaminaga to Kai is the main line. Hatsumi also learned this style from Ueno. I'm sure Ueno taught it to others also.

Hope this helps