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aharris
9th July 2002, 05:42
Hello all,

I have been studying various martial arts for about 15 years or so, my wife and I have recently become interested in researching some suijutsu ryu-ha and were wondering if anyone knew of a good place to start. Thank you all very much.

Respectfully,
Al Harris

John Lindsey
9th July 2002, 06:12
3 years ago I scanned in some text and pics from a Japanese book on swimming printed before the War. It had 3 chapters on suijutsu, showing all the major strokes. We had a server crash and lost those files, but I might be able to make them again.

lemming
9th July 2002, 08:21
John Lindsey wrote:
3 years ago I scanned in some text and pics from a Japanese book on swimming printed before the War. It had 3 chapters on suijutsu, showing all the major strokes. We had a server crash and lost those files, but I might be able to make them again.


I ran across this page a couple of years ago. Is it at all similar to what is in your book? I don't think he was trying to propose that what he's teaching is a traditional suijutsu style by any means, but it looks interesting.

http://www.pixi.com/~mcjitsu/mizujitsu/mizujitsu.html

aharris
9th July 2002, 18:19
John, that would be great, do you have the name/author of the book? Thank you for your reply.

lemming, That does look like it would be fun, but really I am looking for some koryu:)

Respectfully,
Al Harris

Jeff Hamacher
10th July 2002, 01:06
Al,

every march, the Nippon Budokan hosts a martial arts seminar for foreign nationals in japan (you may well be aware of it already), and this year's seminar featured a segment with the current headmaster of Kobori-ryu Tousuijutsu. we even had a chance to try it out.

my attempts to research the ryuha through the internet, however, didn't turn up a great deal of information. not surprising, perhaps, but even digging through japanese websites didn't garner me much more than a few paragraphs. there was one site hosted by someone who appears to be a student of the school, and he displayed perhaps 4 or 5 photos of certain techniques.

using Google and the search term "suijutsu" in japanese, i turned up about 1,000 hits. here's a page (http://member.nifty.ne.jp/RYO3PAK/SUIJUTU/suiryuuha.html) that lists a number of different suijutsu schools, along with the geographic locations where they are training. i hope this serves as a good starting point. post later if you have any questions.

aharris
10th July 2002, 01:53
Thanks very much Jeff, that is a nice starting point... my web searches were unfruitful as well. I appreciate all the help and if I find anything good, I will post:)

al harris

Stéphan Thériault
10th July 2002, 01:57
If you go to this site: http://www.buyubooks.com/ and do a search for suijutsu, you should get a few items back. I know they used to have a book on all the remaining schools, in japanese tough. And I think they have a few videos as well. Hope this helps.

John Lindsey
10th July 2002, 02:10
The book I mentioned is called "Swimming in Japan" and written by the International Young Women and children's Society. Published in English, in 1935. No publisher listed, just Tokyo, Japan. The first 3rd of the book is on the history of swimming in Japan. The rest of it is about sport swimming.

John Lindsey
10th July 2002, 02:14
Here is one page:

John Lindsey
10th July 2002, 02:18
and another:

Jeff Hamacher
10th July 2002, 03:03
Originally posted by aharris
>> Thanks very much Jeff, that is a nice starting point ... my web searches were unfruitful as well. <<

glad to be of assistance, Al. i don't know if this next trick is going to work, to be honest, but please try opening this page (http://www.google.com/search?q=%E6%B0%B4%E8%A1%93&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=ja&lr=) with your browser. it's the results i got back from the Google search i ran above. i'm assuming at this point that your computer is enabled to display japanese.

thanks for the great scans, John! do you actually own a copy of this book?

John Lindsey
10th July 2002, 04:41
Yes, I bought the book on ebay a few years ago. Best 35 bucks I have spent in a long time.

JimmyCrow
10th July 2002, 05:26
Here is a pic (I can't remember where I got it) of suijutsu practice you might find interesting.

Jeff Hamacher
10th July 2002, 05:43
that photo i remember from the Budokan Seminar information page for this past march. unfortunately his name has slipped my mind, but he's the current headmaster of Kobori-ryu, the one i mentioned upthread. he actually demonstrated this technique for us. HTH.

Ginzu Girl
10th July 2002, 20:59
Hi all,
Here's a page from the Tsuki Kage Dojo, run by Nathan Scott:
Kobori Ryu Tosuijutsu (http://www.tsuki-kage.com/kobori_ryu.html)

If you'd like more information, Nei-san-san ought to be lurking around here somewhere. ;) ;)

Just in case, I'll send him an e-mail.
:smilejapa

aharris
12th July 2002, 21:13
That link worked great Jeff.

Those pictures are great... I think that I will try to hunt down that book to, thanks:)

Kendoguy9
16th July 2002, 17:11
hello everyone,

Here is a link to the Mukai-ryu of suijutsu:
http://www.arimoto.com/sadako/mukai/

Not much on it but maybe if you can speak Japanese you can contact them?

gambatte!!!

paolo_italy
9th May 2003, 12:24
Hello,

I'm trying to locate a translation of the book "Nihon Eiho: 12 Ryu-ha no Hiho (Japanese Swimming - Secret Methods of 12 Schools)", by Shirayama Genzaburo (you can have a look at buyubooks.com).

The languages I can read are: English, German, Spanish, Portuguese, French and ( :rolleyes: ) Italian...

Any suggestion?!?

Many thanks, folks.

Paolo

kabutoki
12th May 2003, 20:18
hi paolo,
i am currently doing a lot of research on suijutu but wasnt able to get hold of a copy. do have the original japanese version ? maybe you can pm me about that.

karsten