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John Lindsey
10th August 2003, 16:32
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/3139181.stm

The story in the Mail on Sunday is likely to reopen the debate about the Royal Family and their participation in blood sports.

The prince had been taking lessons in hunting from a Masai warrior when he took a shot at a dik-dik, a 14 inch (35 cm) high native deer.

Legei, the tribal village's Masai leader, told the newspaper that William experimented with the spear - made from acacia wood and fashioned with a metal tip - by targeting tree trunks in a village clearing.

He said: "Then we took him out hunting and he crept up like we do on the first prey he saw, a fully grown dik-dik.
Using the Masais' silent approach, he followed it, took aim and speared it in one go.

"I was proud of him. He picked it up by the tail and presented it to me. At home we eat such animals but I don't think Prince William would even consider it."

Kimpatsu
10th August 2003, 16:34
"Hunting: the unspeakable in pursuit of the inedible."
--Oscar Wilde

Bud_Wiser
10th August 2003, 16:55
oh man, the PETA idiots are going to have a cow over this one (pun intended). :)

I don't mind him killing an animal as long as it's not an endangered species and the animal's remain were put to some use, like the meat given to the tribe or something like that.

Soulend
10th August 2003, 17:41
Originally posted by Kimpatsu
"Hunting: the unspeakable in pursuit of the inedible."
--Oscar Wilde

A typical quote from a foppish hedonist. Actually most game animals are very tasty when dressed and prepared with care. My Dad has eaten dik-dik while in Tanzania (then Tanganika) and told me that it was very good. Dik Dik are far from being endangered, they are a common game animal-not only to man but to nearly every carnivore in their range, being pretty far down in the food chain - they're tiny! Bravo to Prince William. I doubt I could hit such a little thing with a spear.

The PETA idiots need to realize that man is a hunter by nature and design, and that he is, in fact, an animal. It's just a shame that we have become so "civilized" and soft that we no longer recognize this fact.

John Lindsey
10th August 2003, 17:55
PETA responds:

Animal rights activists reacted angrily to the suggestion the prince had killed the deer for sport.

"One's first thought is why would somebody feel the need to kill an animal while on holiday, and why do it in a way which has a very high chance of being quite inhumane?" said Jonathan Owen, spokesman for the World Society for the Protection of Animals.

"Spearing an animal is a crude way of killing it, and not guaranteed to kill the animal quickly, if someone is not an expert spearman.

"We have hundreds of thousands of members and when they go on holiday they like to watch animals in the wild, not try to take them out of circulation."

Soulend
10th August 2003, 18:05
God, what a bunch of pussies. Perhaps if these 'thousands of members' who go on holiday to watch animals in the wild would look a little closer, they would see that the killing methods of the majority of predators are hellish 'crude', 'inhumane', painful, and brutal.

William, by the account, speared it in one shot, and I'm pretty certain the Masai didn't just let the meat sit out and rot. Some people have nothing better to do than be whining little b*tches.

ScottUK
10th August 2003, 20:20
David F. Craik
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The pointy end goes in the lil' deer. :D

TenguAteMyPuppy
10th August 2003, 21:25
I'll be impressed when he kills a starving bear with a butter knife. Now that would be skill!

icynorth
10th August 2003, 23:41
PETA should be less worried about people hunting wild game. At least they had a chance, and lived in the free. You should see the crap that goes on in feedlots and slaughterhouses. Stick to that.

Kimpatsu
11th August 2003, 00:08
Originally posted by Soulend
A typical quote from a foppish hedonist.
What's wrong with being a foppish hedonist? :kiss:
Actually, I think Wilde was more after the nobility than the hunting per se.

Shitoryu Dude
11th August 2003, 01:41
I'm still waiting for a PETA member to be eaten by a cow :D

TenguAteMyPuppy
11th August 2003, 01:46
What's wrong with being a foppish hedonist?

Indeed.

I consider hunting to be a hedonist activity, but I have no weapons currently, nor is there any acceptable game... except the neighbors, but apparently hunting your neighbors is "illegal" or something. :rolleyes:

Kimpatsu
11th August 2003, 01:53
Originally posted by TenguAteMyPuppy
I consider hunting to be a hedonist activity, but I have no weapons currently, nor is there any acceptable game... except the neighbors, but apparently hunting your neighbors is "illegal" or something. :rolleyes:
We live in such a milquetoast society... I have nothing against hunting per se; I think you'll find, however, that the majority of the anti-hunt lobby are city dwellers, with no real experience of country life. Foxes may be cute, but when they keep raiding your henhouse...

TenguAteMyPuppy
11th August 2003, 02:10
Yes, I understand, minus the foxes and henhouse. Plus the absurdly loud stereo at 2am, and lack of sleep.

Prince Loeffler
11th August 2003, 02:29
Originally posted by Shitoryu Dude
I'm still waiting for a PETA member to be eaten by a cow :D

I've always wondered how PETA members would react if I swat a mosquito on front of their very own eyes.

Here's a link about their success stories:

http://www.peta.org/about/sauff.html

Soulend
11th August 2003, 02:53
You all can consider hunting whatever you wish, as you buy your slaughtered cow neatly and cleanly packaged in styrofoam and cellophane, conveniently killed for you and packaged for your convenient consumption.

If you're not a vegetarian, you don't have a leg to stand on. And if you are a vegetarian, then you're an idiot.

News flash: If there were no hunting, you wouldn't be here right now to complain about it! Go visit a corporate farm, and tell me how humane it is, with animals in a 10'X 4' pen standing up to their flanks in sh*t, their only relief a bolt-gun or sledgehammer to the head.

Do you know how semen is obtained for breeding large, champion bulls? Do a search for electro-ejaculation, then volunteer as a cutter in a slaughterhouse. If you can do the latter without vomiting on the floor or swearing off of meat you have my respect. Then tell me how "humane" it all is, city-dwellers.

I guess it's all O.K. as long as we aren't the ones to pull the trigger - a morally cowardly position. What a bullsh*t society we have.


nor is there any acceptable game

What a load of stupid sh*t. I take it you've never been to McDonald's...where the beef is from Argentina and conveniently killed for you?

There's nothing wrong with being a foppish hedonist as long as you don't comment on things you don't know a damn thing about. He obviously loved the beef, although it was usually of the cylindrical variety.

TenguAteMyPuppy
11th August 2003, 02:59
I stand by my comments on hunting the neighbors! :mad:


What a load of stupid sh*t. I take it you've never been to McDonald's...where the beef is from Argentina and conveniently killed for you?

Are you trying to tell me it's legal to hunt people in McDonalds. Because, if so, I've already tried, and you're a filthy liar! Perhaps this is all some kind of miscommunication...

Anyway, don't get the wrong idea. Seriously, I enjoy hunting. I just want something better and more exciting to hunt than some lame deer.

Soulend
11th August 2003, 03:03
Hunt people then, or whatever. They are far more expendible than any wild animal, and you will be likely doing the world a favor, as the overwhelming majority of them are as*holes.

TenguAteMyPuppy
11th August 2003, 03:04
Agreed. Now what?

PHILBERT
11th August 2003, 04:14
Originally posted by Shitoryu Dude
I'm still waiting for a PETA member to be eaten by a cow :D

Same here. I work as a waiter so I get the vegitarians alot. They won't even touch the hashbrown casserole, or green beans because it has meat seasoning added to it or something. The turnip greens/red beans is one thing because it has ham. I had one once say "How could you eat an innocent animal?" and I said "lady, the way I view it is if that chicken had the power and capability, it would eat me. So I better eat it before it eats me."

I see some amazing crap though waiting tables. I should write an online web log or something about my job, like that one lady who worked in a video store with porno, or the people who talk about there jobs as customer service reps for computer companies.

Bud_Wiser
11th August 2003, 06:26
One incident really convinced me of the extremist nature of some of these vegetarians.

I was on a climbing trip with a bunch of other people and over lunch I offered one of the vegans my water bottle. It was the middle of summer and I knew his water was running low. He refused, saying that he can't drink from my bottle coz I just eat a chicken sandwich. I almost kicked the ¤¤¤¤ out of the guy. There I was, being kind enough to offer help and he treats me like I just ate a turd.

ScottUK
11th August 2003, 10:28
My wife's a veggie (being of Indian origin - India, not North American!) but she's got the right attitude I think.

She doesn't eat meat because she has bought up to believe it's not right to do so. She isn't religious, even though her family is (Hindu - not overly religious), but when we go out and I have a medium-rare steak, she'll ask what it tastes like, try it and make her assumptions based on her own opinions.

So, to summarise, she's 95% veggie as this is the palate she's developed over the years, but she wouldn't freak out at borrowing a water bottle because someone's ATE A CHICKEN SANDWICH!

Me? I'm a strict carnivore with not much taste for vegetables! :D

larsen_huw
11th August 2003, 11:31
I like my meat, and don't have much taste for veggies (tables, not tarians! :D ). Infact, just about the only way to get me to eat them is as a sauce for something meaty!

larsen_huw
11th August 2003, 11:35
I've got a friend who doesn't eat red meat. He won't refuse it, but he won't cook it for himself. He claims "it makes my spooge taste funny". When asked why that should matter to him, he says he's only being considerate to women. I eat loads of red meat and never had any complaints.

Are the women just being polite to me?

Is there are truth in my friend's statement?

Charlie Kondek
11th August 2003, 14:26
Hey, I'm confused on something:


The story in the Mail on Sunday is likely to reopen the debate about the Royal Family and their participation in blood sports.

What debate? What other "blood sports" does the Royal Family participate in?

Signed,

Baffled Yank

larsen_huw
11th August 2003, 14:33
Various members of the Royal Family have been seen at hunts before. That's the chasing foxes on horseback with a pack of dogs type of hunting.

They also go in for pheasent shooting (or is that peasant shooting! :D ) ... you get a row of posh people with shotguns in a field ... then get a bunch of poor men with sticks to run through the undergrowth scaring the pheasants into the air, where the assembed toffs take pot shots at them with expensive shotguns.

I think (but not sure) that some of them are into falconry.

Mekugi
11th August 2003, 14:33
More power to Prince William's hunt for Dik (dik). He should be man enough to eat it though- which takes the reasoning out of hunting altogether, doesn't it?? I just don't get that "Oh I like to kill for no reason" stuff.

-Rawsty


Originally posted by John Lindsey
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/3139181.stm

The story in the Mail on Sunday is likely to reopen the debate about the Royal Family and their participation in blood sports.

The prince had been taking lessons in hunting from a Masai warrior when he took a shot at a dik-dik, a 14 inch (35 cm) high native deer.

Legei, the tribal village's Masai leader, told the newspaper that William experimented with the spear - made from acacia wood and fashioned with a metal tip - by targeting tree trunks in a village clearing.

He said: "Then we took him out hunting and he crept up like we do on the first prey he saw, a fully grown dik-dik.
Using the Masais' silent approach, he followed it, took aim and speared it in one go.

"I was proud of him. He picked it up by the tail and presented it to me. At home we eat such animals but I don't think Prince William would even consider it."

Kimpatsu
11th August 2003, 14:47
Originally posted by Mekugi
More power to Prince William's hunt for Dik (dik).
Yes, royalty are all diks. :D

Mekugi
11th August 2003, 14:57
How's about we open up Royals season?
Eat the rich...

-Rawsty


Originally posted by Kimpatsu

Yes, royalty are all diks. :D

Mekugi
11th August 2003, 15:01
They need their arses kicked. Hard....wait, there is that story "The Most Dangerous Game"....I wonder if it would be illegal to sign them up unwillingly for that type of hunt? Do I have any yea's in the audience?

-R


Originally posted by larsen_huw
Various members of the Royal Family have been seen at hunts before. That's the chasing foxes on horseback with a pack of dogs type of hunting.

They also go in for pheasent shooting (or is that peasant shooting! :D ) ... you get a row of posh people with shotguns in a field ... then get a bunch of poor men with sticks to run through the undergrowth scaring the pheasants into the air, where the assembed toffs take pot shots at them with expensive shotguns.

I think (but not sure) that some of them are into falconry.

Mekugi
11th August 2003, 15:03
Umm...didn't Charles go to China and participate in underground fighting??

Wait...no...that was someone else's lie.

Nevermind.

-R

Originally posted by Charlie Kondek
Hey, I'm confused on something:



What debate? What other "blood sports" does the Royal Family participate in?

Signed,

Baffled Yank

boku_wa
12th August 2003, 15:47
Originally posted by Soulend
You all can consider hunting whatever you wish, as you buy your slaughtered cow neatly and cleanly packaged in styrofoam and cellophane, conveniently killed for you and packaged for your convenient consumption.

If you're not a vegetarian, you don't have a leg to stand on. And if you are a vegetarian, then you're an idiot.


spoken like a man of men. :)

elder999
12th August 2003, 15:58
"Vegetarian" is almost universally,in every Native American language, the word for "lousy hunter.":p

Kimpatsu
12th August 2003, 16:07
Originally posted by elder999
"Vegetarian" is almost universally,in every Native American language, the word for "lousy hunter.":p
LOL :laugh: :nw: