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ulvulv
26th January 2004, 13:04
anybody know about this art? i read about them in an article many years ago, but I have thrown the magazine.
http://www.shimgumdo.org/homepage.html
glad2bhere
26th January 2004, 14:19
Dear Roar:
This version of Korean sword comes up for comment now and again. There have been a few strings on the SWORD FORUM INTERNATIONAL which you can probably pull up with a search of their archives. The "Readers Digest version" is that the sword style was invented by the current head of a branch of Son (contemplative) Buddhism. It is not so much a form of swordsmanship as the manner in which the mind is focused using the sword. Of course, its combat effectiveness is questionable, but then, it was not intended as a combat form as such. The folks in the New England area (Conn., RI) advertise pretty regularly and I have called them and spoken with the folks there. They seem comfortable with what they do. FWIW.
Best Wishes,
Bruce
falang gwai
26th January 2004, 15:05
It might help to know that 'shim' in Korean is the same as Japanese 'shin' -- as in mushin. Written with the same kanji/hanja character, as well.
G. Zepeda
26th January 2004, 15:25
If gumdo is = to kendo,
and shim is = shin,
is this the Korean version of Shinkendo?
Aozora
26th January 2004, 17:24
Originally posted by G. Zepeda
If gumdo is = to kendo,
and shim is = shin,
is this the Korean version of Shinkendo?
The 'shin' in shinkendo is not the same. In shinkendo, it's a different kanji and means 'new.'
Nathan Scott
26th January 2004, 17:46
Actually, the "shin" in Shinkendo is a NGU character (old) that was replaced by the shin character (makoto) for "true, genuine".
On the otherhand, shin is a homophone for other kanji, and those meanings are implied within Shinkendo as well (new, divine, kokoro, etc.). I can't even view the shimgumdo page anymore on my browser, but I seem to recall that they use the kanji for "kokoro" (heart).
In any event, we DO kind of consider this to be the Korean version of Shinkendo, since they are using the same name in essence, but are not too upset about it since what they do has very little to do with Japanese swordsmanship and nothing to do with Shinkendo.
In fact, we're kind of glad that it was them that "borrowed" the name. We knew it was a matter of time, so at least this way there is no conflict and the name has been established in Korean already.
Regards,
G. Zepeda
26th January 2004, 18:20
I thought that was a little to close to Shinkendo(name only) to not be borrowed from at least a little...
Nathan Scott
26th January 2004, 18:41
Oops, I went to shimgumdo.com before. Shimgumdo.org does seem to be referring to the "Shin/Kokoro" kanji.
They have trademarked the name too, so we should be in good shape from other Korean groups adopting the name.
Yeah, I know. "Shinkendo actually came from Shimgumdo, which is an old Korean art"!!...
Aozora
26th January 2004, 19:37
Originally posted by Nathan Scott
Actually, the "shin" in Shinkendo is a NGU character (old) that was replaced by the shin character (makoto) for "true, genuine".
My bad. I'd heard it was new, as in it was Post WWII, etc. No offense implied and I stand corrected.
Nathan Scott
26th January 2004, 19:54
Mr. Melancon,
No harm done!
Regards,
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