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Sverker
26th December 2007, 09:18
Does anyone have a description of Saifa kata kumite bunkai?
I dont want a description to Saifa kihon bunkai (6 bunkai), that i have already.

I have searched the net but not found what i'm looking for. I hope someone here can help me.

Im training Okinawa Goju Ryu.

Mark Murray
26th December 2007, 12:47
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ZachZinn
26th December 2007, 18:54
Does anyone have a description of Saifa kata kumite bunkai?
I dont want a description to Saifa kihon bunkai (6 bunkai), that i have already.

I have searched the net but not found what i'm looking for. I hope someone here can help me.

Im training Okinawa Goju Ryu.

Not sure which bunkai you're looking for, but you can find the Shorei-kan saifa bunkai oyo drill in Okinawan Goju Ryu II by Seikichi Toguchi:

http://books.google.com/books?id=zfFaPBlINPwC&dq=okinawan+goju+ryu+2&pg=PP1&ots=oBAP-BTqjm&sig=EfU0qsd-nNGP-qThjCJZ0k8Rc_c&hl=en&prev=http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&sa=X&oi=spell&resnum=0&ct=result&cd=1&q=okinawan+goju+ryu+2&spell=1&oi=print&ct=title&cad=one-book-with-thumbnail

There used to be a performance of this on youtube, but it's been removed I think. Anyway i've seen lots and lots of drills for saifa, so i''m not sure that this is even what you're looking for.1

Sverker
27th December 2007, 19:13
ZachZInn: I don't knoe hoe to explain what i mean. But if you train Goju Ryu and have reached 6kyu then you probebly done Geksai dai ichi kata kumite bunkai. Its a bunkai done in one movement sort of speak. One attack, the other one defends himself. The defender does the kata. And you do it on one line.

Hard for me to explain i english, but i hope you unbderstand what i mean.
But look on this video, then you might understand what i'm talking about. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2s1jNi8nsyw

a similar bunkai exist to Saifa, and i want to know where to get info about it.

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Sverker Gatu

ZachZinn
27th December 2007, 20:49
ZachZInn: I don't knoe hoe to explain what i mean. But if you train Goju Ryu and have reached 6kyu then you probebly done Geksai dai ichi kata kumite bunkai. Its a bunkai done in one movement sort of speak. One attack, the other one defends himself. The defender does the kata. And you do it on one line.

Hard for me to explain i english, but i hope you unbderstand what i mean.
But look on this video, then you might understand what i'm talking about. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2s1jNi8nsyw

a similar bunkai exist to Saifa, and i want to know where to get info about it.

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Sverker Gatu

Yeah, that's what i'm telling you, buy that book and it will have what you're looking for. The hookiyu/gekisai I teach is the shoreikan one, and probably is very close to what you're talking about.

Unfortunately you cant see the step by step for it in the book link, but if you buy or otherwise obtain the book it has step by step photos of the bunkai drill.

But yes, I know exactly what you're talking about, and that book is the only place I personally have seen a long 2 man bunkai oyo drill for saifa.
I don't know whether other schools have the same sort of 2 man bunkai drill for saifa kata, but the Shoreikan is the only one i've ever seen.

If you train in a Goju that uses the Toguchi/Shoreikan bunkai oyo drills I'm sure it's close to what you do.

Sverker
27th December 2007, 22:56
ZachZinn: Ok, great!
Maybe i'll purchase it then. I hoped somone had it in a word document, you know, like a written description of it. but hey... there no such thing as a free lunch....:D