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Vile
5th February 2008, 02:28
Dear E-Budoka,

I've understood that most of the Asayama Ichiden ryū practiced today comes either from Naganuma Tsuneyuki or Sakai Uichirō, both who were students of Ōkura Naoyuki.

I've witnessed two separate enbu of Asayama Ichiden ryū, once at the Meiji Jingū Kobudō Taikai in 2003 and once at the Asakusa Riverside Sport Center Kobudō Taikai last year. I got the feeling that these two were of separate lineages, but could someone more knowledgeable person confirm this. Or even better, name the lineages, if in fact they are different.

Here's links to some photos that I hope will help the recognition:

Meiji Jingū Kobudō Taikai, 2003:

One (http://www.hiphop-directory.com/~vile/asayama/asayama1.jpg)
Two (http://www.hiphop-directory.com/~vile/asayama/asayama2.jpg)

Asakusa Riverside Sport Center Kobudō Taikai, 2007:

One (http://picasaweb.google.com/mvilenius/KobudoTaikaiCMVilenius/photo#5057032146729122242)
Two (http://picasaweb.google.com/mvilenius/KobudoTaikaiCMVilenius/photo#5057032146729122258)
Three (http://picasaweb.google.com/mvilenius/KobudoTaikaiCMVilenius/photo#5057032159614024210)
Four (http://picasaweb.google.com/mvilenius/KobudoTaikaiCMVilenius/photo#5057032163908991522)
Five (http://picasaweb.google.com/mvilenius/KobudoTaikaiCMVilenius/photo#5057032168203958834)

Thank you!

Vile
15th May 2008, 05:44
Just selfishly bringing this up a little bit, in case somebody with knowledge missed it on the first time around.

"And now for something completely different: How to recognize different lineages of AIr from quite long way away. Number one... the larch.."

fifthchamber
15th May 2008, 13:58
The trousers tend to give Asayama Ichiden Ryu away from a distance...

I would guess that both groups in the photos are the same...I have seen the Meiji enbu several times, and each time the same huge Kama is used in the demo, so despite the look being slightly different between those photo sets I would say that the origin is the same...Perhaps they just forgot the slimmer fitting hakama this time around?

fifthchamber
15th May 2008, 14:09
Just checked my programme notes and the two are the same, both from Ozaki(Osaki) Sensei's class in Kanagawa Ken..

Vile
16th May 2008, 14:13
Thank you for the information Mr. Sharples. Would you happen to know Ozaki sensei's lineage?