Karlstad Gasshuku (Sweden) April 19-20, 2008

[Anders Pettersson]

Gassho.


I will post more details as soon as they are settled.

The Gasshuku will be held in Karlstad on the 19-20th of April. The Gasshuku is aimed towards kenshi in Sweden, but of course any kenshi from any other country are of course welcome to participate if they want.


The main instructors will be Morikawa Kazuhito sensei and his brother Morikawa Hirohito sensei, they are both Seihanshi 7 Dan, as well as appointed as "Gakusei Shidoin" by Hombu. I and probably Åke Olsson, Seikenshi 4 Dan and shibu-cho in Karlstads Studenter will most likely also assist as instructors.

During the 90s they won the all Japan Embu Taikai 6 times, they have reached the 2nd place on two International Taikai and last year they came second place in the 5th Dan and above category. This is impressing since most people competing at that level in the top category usually are around 25-30 years old and the Morikawa brothers are a little bit over 40.

You can see their Embu on youtube here:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=M32dEcTiedY


The cost for the Gasshuku is not settled at this time, but to give a rough estimate it will most likely land on something like 750 Sek (~78 €, 58 £, 114 $ US). This will include lunch for Saturday and Sunday as well as dinner at a restaurant on Saturday night (just the included food is worth something like 300 SEK).

There will also be an inexpensive alternative for accommodation for something like 50 SEK a night (maybe even cheaper, depends on how many want this alternative). This will be on the floor in a gym hall or dojo.
Hotel will be available, at walking distance from the Gasshuku training hall for 600 SEK a night for single rooms, 700 SEK a night for double rooms, and about 800 SEK a night for triple rooms.

Access to Karlstad is possible by airplane from Stockholm and Copenhagen (Karlstad airport code is KSD). I know that for UK kenshi it is possible to fly in to Gothenburg very cheap by Ryan air, and then take a train from Gothenburg to Karlstad.

I will post more details as soon as they are settled.


I possible I hope to see you at our Gasshuku

Take care.
/Anders

[Indar]

Highly recommended.

One point though; last time I trained in Sweden, my bank charged me an extortionate amount to transfer money. I suggest that Kenshi travelling from another country pool their resources and make one money transfer to avoid this rip-off.

[Richard Codling]

Hi Anders,

I'd love another trip to Sweden but my priority at the moment is finishing my PhD thesis - I've spent far too much time during its duration skiving off on Shorinji Kempo holidays, not that that was time wasted in the slightest.

I'll try and make the next one though and I do echo Indar's comment about funds transfers - when 6 of us from Glasgow went to Karlstad in 2006 we pooled our resources for the transfer.

Have a good time and I wanna see pictures!


Richard

[sheb]

Sounds as if this gasshuku will be a great event. How much time does one have to register?

[Ade]

Gassho

I'm probably coming flights are about £50 at the moment and want to see one of the 25-30 years old 5th Dans mentioned competing in the top category.;)

25 years old and 5th dan...there's no hope for me....I give up!:cry:

PS which is the best to fly into, Stockholm skvasta or vasteras?

Kesshu

[Indar]

Gassho

I'm probably coming and want to see one of the 25-30 years old 5th Dans mentioned competing in the top category.;)

25 years old and 5th dan...there's no hope for me....I give up!:cry:

Kesshu

25 year olds ????
huh,..................i'll fight any two of them :D

(rapidly entering my second half-century, and feeling better than ever)

[Ade]

Are you going then ;)tall-boy?

[Michael_Smith]

Gassho

Ryan flights UK:

Fare £4.79 Fri, 18 Apr 08. Flight FR 966 12:10 Depart London Stansted (STN) 15:05 Arrive Gothenburg City (GSE)

Fare £4.79 GBP Sun, 20 Apr 08. Flight FR 967 15:25 Depart Gothenburg City (GSE) 16:15 Arrive London Stansted (STN)

So thats £50.58 GBP, including taxes

On another note, I'm under 25-30years old, only 24!:D
but i'm only a shodan :(
and if I do my calculations I could reach 5th dan.... D'OH!!!

Hope these flight details help!

[Ade]

Gassho

This looks better.
Ryanair

Friday, 18 Apr 08 Flight 964 Depart London Stansted (STN) 07:00 Arrive Gothenburg City (GSE) 09:55

Sunday, 20 Apr 08 Flight 969 Depart Gothenburg City (GSE) 21:20 Arrive London Stansted (STN) 22:10

Pricing London Stansted(STN) to Gothenburg City(GSE) 29.99 GBP
Gothenburg City(GSE) to London Stansted (STN) 20.59 GBP

[Michael_Smith]

Gassho

Thats is a lot better, sorry folks.

Thanks Sensei!

Kesshu

[Indar]

Are you going then ;)tall-boy?

are you posting to me ?

i may pop in on my way to Switzerland to rendezvous with Aosaka Sensei.

seriously, I am looking forward to the "special philosophy".
assuming that there are any places left.

[Steve Williams]

Gassho

I'm probably coming flights are about £50 at the moment and want to see one of the 25-30 years old 5th Dans mentioned competing in the top category.;)

25 years old and 5th dan...there's no hope for me....I give up!:cry:

PS which is the best to fly into, Stockholm skvasta or vasteras?

Kesshu

If you want to se 25 year old 5th dans then go to japan......
The Morikawa brothers are going to Sweden and they are in their 40's (I am going to hurt for this.....) but they are equal [mostly better] to any 25 year olds in embu competition......

I'm hoping to be there by the way.......

[Steve Williams]

For a cheap flight see travelsupermarket.com
Just looked and you can go from Stanstead to Stockholm for £41 return...... yes, return.....

Only problem is that its with ryanair, so they charge extra for any checked baggage, and there are no refreshments on the flight (its only just over 2 hours though...)

[ken70]

From Paris (Beauvais) BVA to Stockholm NYO, with Ryanair : 38,51€ (return)...
How many for the travel by train, from Stockholm to Karlstad? (or by plane)

[Indar]

If you want to se 25 year old 5th dans then go to japan......


if you want to see 5th dans behaving like 25 year olds................

on second thoughts perhaps i'll shut up..................

[Indar]

not to sure about using ryanair

http://www.asa.org.uk/asa/adjudications/Public/TF_ADJ_43901.htm

although they are cheap. principles or money ?????

[Rob Gassin]

not to sure about using ryanair

http://www.asa.org.uk/asa/adjudications/Public/TF_ADJ_43901.htm

although they are cheap. principles or money ?????

The only ones laughing are Ryanair management. They almost certainly got more exposure from the controversy than from their ad campaign :(.

[JL.]

Gassho!

I don't know about that campaign but if You want reasons against Ryan Air then just ask Yourself how they manage to be so cheap. The answer is quite easy: They don't pay their employees. According to a report I saw on German TV they pay ridiculous wages with no extras, don't pay for stand-by time, and even have the employees in spe pay for their own training!
Or did You think £40 per flight (return!) would pay for the costs – if there were any?

Kesshu,
______ Jan.

[Michael_Smith]

Dear all

Gassho

Further to Sensei Steve’s post about the cheap flight to Stockholm, I have done some further research.

Return Flights:
UK to Stockholm £41
UK to Oslo (Norway) £42.83
UK to Goteborg £50.98

Once arrived, to get to Karlstad:
From Goteborg, 262km, ~ 3hr30min drive
From Oslo, 294km, ~ 3hr45min drive
From Stockholm 468km ~ 5hrs drive
(according to google map)

Essentially it’s weighing up flight cost, with internal travel cost (and timings) once in Sweden depending whether you’re hiring a car or train etc.

Train tickets appear to cost in the region of:
From Goteborg, ~£15 return
From Oslo ~ £18 return (I’ve inter-railed Europe for 6 weeks, boarder controls are ok)
From Stockholm ~£20 Return

But these care cost of intercity trains only and I’m not sure if this is pre-booked tickets. Cost can mount to as much as £35-40 for other tickets, on what seems to be slower train services. Information from SJ’s website (http://www.sj.se/sj/jsp/polopoly.jsp?l=en). Please note those under 25 years old have a different price tariff and students also have a different price tariff.

Domo Arigato

[Ade]

Dear All

Gassho

We will be flying into Gotenborg and driving to Karlstad in a hire car.

The other option of ethically travelling by yoghurt fuelled volunteer staffed carbon neutral yak cart will take considerably longer and the expense will preclude my attendance.

The fact that Ryanair used an advert that hinted that there was a link between pretty girls at school and sex outrages me, I can assure you that all the time I was at school I was wholly oblivious to the charms of teenage girls with lumpy jumpers and an alluring wiggle.

I feel it is our task to consider such things deeply though...so I've considered it and that plane's going anyway so I'll go on it and do some good later on to make up for it.

As for human sexuality well the idea of banning it will fail against the simple reality of truth...without sex you wouldn't be here....:eek:

Kesshu

[Indar]

As for human sexuality well the idea of banning it will fail against the simple reality of truth...without sex you wouldn't be here....:eek:

Kesshu

Actually, I was thnking of having you cloned..................

[JL.]

Actually, I was thnking of having you cloned..................I second that! :laugh: ;) JL

[Ade]

Gassho

You've obviously never met my youngest...Angel...have you?

She's my mini-me.

Kesshu

[Indar]

Gassho

You've obviously never met my youngest...Angel...have you?

She's my mini-me.

Kesshu

slightly prettier...............:look:

[Rob Gassin]

Gassho

You've obviously never met my youngest...Angel...have you?

She's my mini-me.

Kesshu

Is she the one starring on a YouTube video, doing Tenchiken 1?

Cheers,

[paul browne]

slightly prettier...............:look:

Your kidding, she definately got her mother's looks, much prettier:)

[Indar]

Your kidding, she definately got her mother's looks, much prettier:)

.........i was talking about Ade...............

[Ade]

Gentlemen (and Indar)

Gassho

The one on you tube is my eldest, Millie, she's a green tag, Poppie is a yellow tag and Angel has a gi but hasn't FORMALLY started training yet...though her mae ukemi and kicks are coming on a treat!

One day all 4 of us will demonstrate an embu, probably in about 7 years time at the end of which I will die gloriously by getting kicked to death by my progeny to tumultuous applause from the crowd.:cry:

I figure that it's the only way to go really!

Kesshui

[Indar]

Gentlemen (and Indar)


definitely a man.................., not so gentle.:D

[Anders Pettersson]

From Paris (Beauvais) BVA to Stockholm NYO, with Ryanair : 38,51€ (return)...
How many for the travel by train, from Stockholm to Karlstad? (or by plane)

You should all be aware of that "Stockholm NYO", which is the airport used by Ryan Air, is quite a bit away from Stockholm (105 km), I think there are buses to Stockholm that takes about 1-1,5 hour, there are no direct conections from this airport to Karlstad other than rental car. It is about 242 km to Karlstad from Skavsta Airport (Stockholm NYO).

So if you will go with Ryan air, Gothenburg is better since the airport is actually in Gothenburg. :) It has decent train connections as well.



Once arrived, to get to Karlstad:
From Goteborg, 262km, ~ 3hr30min drive
From Oslo, 294km, ~ 3hr45min drive
From Stockholm 468km ~ 5hrs drive
(according to google map)

A little bit strange figures.
According to a Swedish map service (which also sounds more true for me, especially compared to the info you had on Stockholm)
From Gothenburg to Karlstad - distance: 261.2 km. drive time: ~3:01 hours (http://kartor.eniro.se/query?&what=route&mop=aq&mapstate=1;17;62.2;s;-7.2535823346557;73.34461042836572;41.1818509149885;51.09503789416846;691;599&stq=0&pis=0#&what=route&mapstate=2;17.496449;59.047300;s;12.82989534502951;61.193349404247655;22.144401739191853;56.91458545 536357;691;599&mapcomp=%3B%3B%3B%3B%3B%3B%3B%3B%3B%3B%3B%3B%3B%3B0%3B0%3B%3B%3B%3B0&stq=0&acount=2&m_width=691&m_height=599&addr1=%7CG%F6teborg%2C%2041103%20G%D6TEBORG%7C41103%7C11.972952842712402%7C57.70864486694336%7C4%7Cm aps_place%3B110071%3B21%7C%7C%7C%7C&addr2=%7CKarlstad%2C%2065225%20KARLSTAD%7C65225%7C13.499354362487793%7C59.37820816040039%7C5%7Cmaps_ place.92340.21%7C%7C&fromSearch=Göteborg,%2041103%20GÖTEBORG&toSearch=Karlstad&calculationMode=fastest)

From Stockholm (Arlanda airport) to Karlstad - Distance: 315.9 km. drive time: ~3:05 hours (http://kartor.eniro.se/query?&what=route&mop=aq&mapstate=1;17;62.2;s;-7.2535823346557;73.34461042836572;41.1818509149885;51.09503789416846;691;599&stq=0&pis=0#&what=route&mapstate=2;12.669600;58.552101;s;8.004145288430203;60.69332690604752;17.31865168259255;56.4145629571 63426;691;599&mapcomp=%3B%3B%3B%3B%3B%3B%3B%3B%3B%3B%3B%3B%3B%3B0%3B0%3B%3B%3B%3B0&stq=0&acount=2&m_width=691&m_height=599&addr1=%7CArlanda%20Flygplats%20Terminal%205%2C%2019045%20STOCKHOLM-ARLANDA%7C19045%7C17.93062973022461%7C59.65194320678711%7C6%7Cmaps_place.2801889.21%7C%7C&addr2=%7CKarlstad%2C%2065225%20KARLSTAD%7C65225%7C13.499354362487793%7C59.37820816040039%7C5%7Cmaps_ place%3B92340%3B21%7C%7C%7C%7C&fromSearch=Stockholm,%20arlanda&toSearch=Karlstad,%2065225%20KARLSTAD&calculationMode=fastest)

The Swedish site couldn't handle Norway so this one is by Google
From Oslo to Karlstad - Distance: 222 km. drive time: ~3:18 hours (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&hl=sv&geocode=&saddr=oslo&daddr=karlstad&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=34.999041,65.390625&ie=UTF8&z=8)

/Anders

Oh, and by the way, please try to keep your posts on the topic. ;)

[Anders Pettersson]

One point though; last time I trained in Sweden, my bank charged me an extortionate amount to transfer money. I suggest that Kenshi travelling from another country pool their resources and make one money transfer to avoid this rip-off.

Forgot about this one.

When doing pyaments from banks in Sweden to other EU countries (and my understanding is that this is regulated by EU), if you have the BIC and IBAN, the cost for transfering money is about 1 €.

It should be the same in other EU countries, shouldn't it?
But check with you bank first, and as always you can probably save some money by transfer money together (and that will make things easier in our end as well).

/Anders

[Ade]

Gassho
We're coming, so far at least 4 of us, possibly more, can't wait.:D
Kesshu.

[Indar]

Oh, and by the way, please try to keep your posts on the topic. ;)

Point taken.

But, even within ShorinjiKempo, sometimes we are allowed to have fun.

[Michael_Smith]

Gassho
We're coming, so far at least 4 of us, possibly more, can't wait.:D
Kesshu.

Gassho

I can confirm it's six people. There shouldn't be anymore.
Looking forward to it.

Kesshu

[Steve Williams]

Gentlemen (and Indar)

One day all 4 of us will demonstrate an embu, probably in about 7 years time at the end of which I will die gloriously by getting kicked to death by my progeny to tumultuous applause from the crowd.:cry:

I figure that it's the only way to go really!

Kesshui
Ah, a harrow embu then.....

[Steve Williams]

Just a couple of things:

I have driven from Stockholm (arlanda) to Karlstad on a number of occasions, takes 3 hours (give or take 10 mins dependant on the weather..... the traffic is always easy.... this is sweden not england...) Watch out for the speed cameras about 2/3 of the way there.....

I usually take out cash from an ATM..... they do not charge, dependant on which card company you use........

[Nina]

From Berlin at least five kenshi will be there.

[Anders Pettersson]

Gassho all.

Sounds good that many people plan to come.

I am right now working on some more detailed information that soon will be available on our web page (both branch and Federation).
I have meant to do this but been a little to busy.

We have settled the cost for the Gasshuku to 750 SEK, this will include lunch on Saturday and Sunday as well as dinner on Saturday night.

We have got a deal on hotel for single room for 605 SEK a night, double room for 710 SEK a night and triple room for 810 SEK a night. This includes breakfast (buffet style). We have prebooked a number of rooms and we will probably need to have applications for these quite soon in order to get these prices.


We will also have a limited number of spaces free of charge in our dojo, if more people (students etc.) wants this cheaper alternative we look into if we can get a gym hall or similar for probably 50 SEK a night.

I will soon post more details and application form etc.

Looking forward to see many of you soon.

/Anders

[Anders Pettersson]

Gassho.

We now have some more detailed information available here:
Invitation (http://www.shorinjikempo.net/docs/karlstad_gasshuku_2008_invitation.pdf) application form (http://www.shorinjikempo.net/docs/karlstad_gasshuku_2008_application_form.doc)

Looking forward to see many of you here in Karlstad.

/Anders

[Anders Pettersson]

I've had some question on some details.



We have got a deal on hotel for single room for 605 SEK a night, double room for 710 SEK a night and triple room for 810 SEK a night. This includes breakfast (buffet style). We have prebooked a number of rooms and we will probably need to have applications for these quite soon in order to get these prices.

In the linked information in my previous post I wrote twin room instead of double room to make it clearer that there are separate beds. According to the hotel the room's beds are not fixed to the wall and are separated by a small table (or similar) but if a couple (boyfriend & girlfriend / husband & wife) stay in a twin room it is possible to put the beds together.

Triple room is similar and has an fold out bed as well.


We will also have a limited number of spaces free of charge in our dojo, if more people (students etc.) wants this cheaper alternative we look into if we can get a gym hall or similar for probably 50 SEK a night.

As it loooks we will have access to class rooms in a school next to our dojo where people can stay for free, so this type of accomodation is free of charge and I believe that we can get room for anyone who wants this type. However you will need to bring your own mattress and sleeping bag, it is basically only a roof over your head and a floor to put your sleeping bag on.

/Anders

[Indar]

hi,

would anyone UK based volunteer to co-ordinate payments, so we can split the bank fees ?

[Anders Pettersson]

hi,

would anyone UK based volunteer to co-ordinate payments, so we can split the bank fees ?

Gassho.

Hi Indar.

If you contact Steve Williams you could handle it the same wya he does.

/Anders

[Indar]

Gassho.

Hi Indar.

If you contact Steve Williams you could handle it the same wya he does.

/Anders

Hi,

Last time I paid my bank about £20 (30 euros?) for the transfer.
If anyone knows of a cheaper way to transfer money, please could they post the details.
Alternatively, I don't mind doing the xfer and splitting the charges; as long as I get paid....I used to be the BSKF debt collector :laugh:

[Robert Liljeblad]

Hi all,

12 kenshi including myself will attend this Gasshuku from Stockholm Norra shibu!

Rumor is that an additional Japanese instructor will attend ?!

Kesshu.

[Anders Pettersson]

Rumor is that an additional Japanese instructor will attend ?!

Gassho.

We are now starting to get some applications coming in, but it is still some time to apply.

The rumors Robert is referring to is that I've got the information from Morikawa Kazuhito sensei that he and his brother will bring another friend from Kyoto with them. It is Mikado sensei. I don't have more information of him other than that he is one of the members of the Hombu demonstration team. I have met him in person a couple of times and he is a nice guy, but I don't know his rank or what shibu/doin he is from (I also don't know if he is shibu-cho/doin-cho).

But I have seen his embu a few times and he is good.


I also need people to notice that there was a mistake in the IBAN in the information/application forms, this have been updated now. I am sorry for any trouble this have caused (and thanks to Sven from Berlin who let me know about it).

Looking forward to see many of you at our gasshuku.

/Anders

[Kari MakiKuutti]

Seven from Jyväskylä Branch.

[Anders Pettersson]

Seven from Jyväskylä Branch.

Gassho.

Good to have some kenshi from Finland as well. :)

As it looks now we are going to be just over one hundred kenshi, however I still haven’t received the application form from some branches that I know have said that they will attend (including Jyväskylä ;)). Last day or application was yesterday (April 2nd).

We need to have in applications very soon in order to be able to arrange accommodation and food.

Looking forward to see many at the gasshuku.

/Anders

[Steve Williams]

however I still haven’t received the application form from some branches that I know have said that they will attend


ooops........ :eek::look:

[Ade]

ooops........ :eek::look:

Shabby shabby shabby....whereas our administration is always above reproach (cough cough......:cry:apart from those two years worth of missing attendance registers and that!)

See you in Sweden.

Kesshu

PS Indar will be sleeping on someone's hotel floor....again!

[Michael_Smith]

Gassho

One of our kenshi unfortunately had to pull out due to a funeral. However, If any kenshi fancy buying her plane ticket (~£70- flying from standsted) then please email or PM me.

Kesshu