paul browne
10th January 2010, 20:08
I have no idea where to place this question, so feel free to move it to a more suitable spot.
This is really aimed at Mr. Tony Wolf as this is his specialism, but any other educated responses will be most welcome.
For a long time now I've had an academic (as opposed to practicing) fascination with the early days of martial arts in Europe (I mean in the modern sense, I am interested in the ideas of Talhoffer, Marazzo etc as well, but more in observing the similarity between unconnected ideas on opposite sides of the world at the same time).
My question, which I'm sure has been answered for others elsewhere, is why there is an absence of tegatana/shuto in the recorded techniques shown by Barton-Wright.
I realise tegatana may not have been a universal technique, and it doesn't figure in the works of near contemporaries such as Captain H.H. Skinner (1904) or W. Bruce Sutherland (1916) but these seem to focus on the locking and throwing 'tricks' of jiujitsu, paying little attention to atemi whilst Barton Wright evidently was interested in atemi, including the very effective hammerfist and backfist strikes so i was wondering if there were any suggestions as to why it is absent. I find this especially puzzling as Irving Hancocks book of 1904 is pretty much an homage to tegatana, emphasising little else :). The later manuals of Captain Smith (1920's) also have a heavy emphasis on Tegatana.
I should add I did stroll through dozens of threads to see if my question was answered elsewhere.
Thanking you all in advance.
Paul
This is really aimed at Mr. Tony Wolf as this is his specialism, but any other educated responses will be most welcome.
For a long time now I've had an academic (as opposed to practicing) fascination with the early days of martial arts in Europe (I mean in the modern sense, I am interested in the ideas of Talhoffer, Marazzo etc as well, but more in observing the similarity between unconnected ideas on opposite sides of the world at the same time).
My question, which I'm sure has been answered for others elsewhere, is why there is an absence of tegatana/shuto in the recorded techniques shown by Barton-Wright.
I realise tegatana may not have been a universal technique, and it doesn't figure in the works of near contemporaries such as Captain H.H. Skinner (1904) or W. Bruce Sutherland (1916) but these seem to focus on the locking and throwing 'tricks' of jiujitsu, paying little attention to atemi whilst Barton Wright evidently was interested in atemi, including the very effective hammerfist and backfist strikes so i was wondering if there were any suggestions as to why it is absent. I find this especially puzzling as Irving Hancocks book of 1904 is pretty much an homage to tegatana, emphasising little else :). The later manuals of Captain Smith (1920's) also have a heavy emphasis on Tegatana.
I should add I did stroll through dozens of threads to see if my question was answered elsewhere.
Thanking you all in advance.
Paul