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Snowtiger
7th November 2001, 10:57
Different schools have been founded for different purposes and this is often evident in the techniques too.

For example, a style designed for battlefield conditions is often quick to get enemy to a position where you can swiftly cut his throat/neck and get on with it. Another example would be a style for inner castle security personnel, when long swords were not worn and bloodshed was to be avoided. Submission holds were the "thing".

What kinds of different "styles" like that can you guys think of and how do their techniques differ in principle (brief as my examples above)? Any sample ryu of these "styles"?

Thanks.

J. Tuomivirta

bdenison
7th February 2002, 19:23
J.,

If I am interpreting your question correctly, an example would be Miyama-ryu Jujutsu, which is geared almost entirely to real street or urban self defense situations. The emphasis is so strong on this that one of the core elements of the curriculum is defensive tactics against various mugging attacks.

Neil Hawkins
7th February 2002, 23:37
Brett, I think we are looking for tradional styles and specialisations. Miyami Ryu is a very modern style with no direct links to Japanese Jujutsu.

I would say one style that fits the bill would be Shin no Shindo Ryu, although this is one of the newer traditional arts (1700's) it was developed almost exclusively for Police style work, with a high component of arresting and disarming techniques. Often based around the precept that a person of lower status would have to subdue a person of higher social status without harming him in any way.

I'll try to think up some more.

Regards

Neil

fifthchamber
8th February 2002, 14:40
Hi all,
Another one is the Yagyu Shingan Ryu..It was taught to at least two 'levels' that depended on who the user was..There was Katchu Heiho which taught defense and attack in armour and also variations for the lower classed Ashigaru samurai..Techniques differed slightly for both due to a few principle points..Attacking an armours weak points and throws to the ground for an armoured Samurai, through to atemi and strikes against a less well clad enemy (of similar Ashigaru status).
(Is this what you meant?)
Abayo.

Snowtiger
23rd February 2002, 07:00
Thanks fellows,

This is exactly what I meant, and especially concerning the traditional arts. Anyone else have any samples on how purpose has guided the methods?

Joel Simmons
23rd February 2002, 09:56
Aloha J,

I practice Takeuchi-ryu jujutsu. A specialization that could be said of Takeuchi-ryu is the use of short blades while grappling. The focuse is on striking/slicing near the joints or places that might have been exposed between armor plates. Since I'm really only a beginner, I apologize that I can't elaborate much further. However, my sensei has told me that the reason "short" weapons are preferred in Takeuchi-ryu is that at the moment of an attack, you must be able to execute your manuever from any position. With many "long" weapons, such as the bo, this may be more difficult to do...and therefore it compromises any advantage you might have had. Of course it all depends on your skill level as well.

Hope this helps.