Best Cinema Martial Artist ever?

[Ade]

Dear All

Who is the best Martial Artist to have hiyah-ed their way across the silver screen ever?

The rules:

Only one nomination per user.
Only 3 reasons as to why.
One link to one film clip is allowed to illustrate each reason.

Let the games commence.

:up:

[monkeyboy_ssj]

Bruce Lee, hands down.

1. Brought realism to martial cinema fighting
2. Great skill of his art
3. a good actor for a martial artist

done and done

[larsen_huw]

Jackie Chan, hands up!

He might not strictly be a martial artist, but ...

1. Brought humour to a stiff and wooden acting genre.
2. Used to do all his own stunts and fight scenes.
3. Innovitive use of MA-type techniques in stuntwork.

done and donerer.

:D

[StanLee]

Samo!

1. He's Jacky's senior
2. He's big and chunky but can still move lightening
3. He resembles my dad

[monkeyboy_ssj]

oooo...this is going to get ugly.

Bruce number 1 Jackie number 1.1 Samo and Yeuog Bio 1.2

They are all so good but Bruce comes top in my lists...Without Bruce there may never have been any 'Jackie' Chan, just Chan Kwong Sang.

What about Bolo? Chinese Hercules!

[Andy Watson]

Steven Seagal

1. He's the best actor, martial arts or non-
2. He has had Special Forces experience so all his stuff MUST be real
3. He isn't fat

:idea:

[monkeyboy_ssj]

I agree, his Ponchos are particularly breath taking...

I'm just surprised he could see where he was going with those quinty eyes.

[Pete Knox]

Toshiro Mifune

1. He had grace and style
2. He kicked mucho butt when needed, was cool at other times
3. Acted for a very very long time

[Tripitaka of AA]

Anyone ready to praise the likes of Sho Kosugi, Ernie Reyes Jnr, Yuen Biao, Michelle Yeoh, Jet Li, Cynthia Rothrock .... I don't see a lot of Chuck Norris fans these days (not since the real stuff started coming out from Hong Kong after all those years in the wilderness).

[koma]

Michelle Yeoh!

1. Shes graceful.
2. She's a great actress.
3. She's numba one sexy gurl!:nw:

[Guts]

Toshiro Mifune, hands down.
1. He inspired me to be a martial artist when I first saw him at 9 years old.
2. He could kill Bruce, Steven, Jet, Jean Claud, and Jacky in 3 seconds flat, then walk away while saying something cool and tough.
3. Show me someone with more onscreen charisma or presence.

http://www.sprout.org/toshiro/images/pics/cover.jpeg

[Bushi Jon]

I would have to say sabastion cabbet. Because everyone knows he Mr. French was a bada$$

or

Tadashi Yamashita (Back Star Ninja)

[Pete Knox]

Originally posted by Tripitaka of AA
.... I don't see a lot of Chuck Norris fans these days (not since the real stuff started coming out from Hong Kong after all those years in the wilderness).

True, when you look at some of the stuff that the genre has evolved into today, Chuck's stuff seems pretty tame in comparison, but I for one love the guy, if not for his movies, what he has done in real life:

1. He inspired many people to go into MA

2. When he sets up his fights, at least most of his moves are somewhat doable, which is more inspiring to "regular" folks than watching Jet Li, who while immensely talented, pulls off techniques that most of us would never even dream of.

3. Whether you like his UFAF or not, his work with youth and anti-drug campaigns is something to be admired. He has tried to furthere this message through his TV series as well.

....oh yeah, and I love his taste in clothing too! ;)

[Ade]

Originally posted by Bushi Jon
I would have to say sabastion cabbet. Because everyone knows he Mr. French was a bada$$

or

Tadashi Yamashita (Back Star Ninja)

Refer to the rules:

"Only one nomination per user"

Mr Frenchy....or was that too complicated?

:nono:

[Julian Gerhart]

do those "aiki jutsu" and "koga ryu ninjutsu" videos from proffesor Ronald Duncan count as cinema? if so I would vote for him. I saw him beat a guy up using only his trusty corn cob pipe. I ask you, has Bruce lee or chuck norris ever done that?

[Ade]

Originally posted by Ade

The rules:

Only one nomination per user.
Only 3 reasons as to why.
One link to one film clip is allowed to illustrate each reason.

:up: [/B]

They are very simple.
Try to abide by them.

[Tripitaka of AA]

1. Miss Piggy
2. Unbeaten in countless contests with a truly unique style.
3. Any Muppets show, TV or cinema... her art is always there!

[Pete Knox]

Originally posted by Tripitaka of AA
1. Miss Piggy
2. Unbeaten in countless contests with a truly unique style.
3. Any Muppets show, TV or cinema... her art is always there!

Ah yes - the dreaded "pork mei" style...
:laugh:

[Kimpatsu]

Yen Biao.
Jackie Chan's kohai, appeared in many movies with Jackie and Samo Hung, great skill and good looking guy. Also starred opposite Cynthia Rothrock in "Above the Law".
Anyone who votes for Bruce Lee gets shot. :shot:

[monkeyboy_ssj]

:P

He IS the don.

[stanley neptune]

Moe Howard(of The Three Stooges)

1) He came out on top in countless brawls with Larry Fine, Curly Howard and Shemp Howard.
2) He was the master of two finger eye poke (although Curly's one handed block planted on his nose was equally masterful) which was the part of a larger system called Stooge Ryu.
3) He had a very asian hair style for a white Jewish guy from the lower east side of Manhattan.

Stanley Neptune

[KempoCat]

i guess someone has to say it!

JET LI!
1) "He floats like a butterfly, stings like a bee... hurts like buggery!"
2) you always get an inspirational feeling everytime you watch him pull a technique, leaving you to wonder how he did it, not that im saying the others dont, cos they do!
3) he tries to shows the meaning of true budo (even though he's from a chinese art) from his philosophical studies (afterall he did study in one of the shaolin temples).

[Rachel]

I agree, Toshiro Mifune - he inspired all the others...Japanese or English speaking, he was awesome

Thanks for the poster...:cool:

[Kimpatsu]

Rachel, could you sign all posts with your full name, please?

[Iain]

Xiang Xi-yi (sp?) -just in case it's really wrong, the bad chick from rush-hour-

1. She's super-hot-hotty-mc-hotster
2. I want to rub banana scented oil all over her midsection
3. She has the most uber-sexy pouty/bad girl facial expression ever

oh yeah, she kicks good and stuff too.

[Brian Owens]

I was going to say Toshiro Mifune, but since he's been mentioned already I'll say Takakura Ken, The Japanese Clint Eastwood. "The Yakuza" is one of the best East Meets West movies ever, much better than Mifune's "Red Sun" IMHO.

[Brian Owens]

Originally posted by Andy Watson
Steven Seagal

3. He isn't fat


You haven't seen him recently, have you?

---

Brian Owens

[Tripitaka of AA]

There's a Chinese/Hong Kong actor who made movies from the 40s to the 80s playing one of those classic characters (Wong Fei Hong, Fong Sai Yuk, one of those guys) in loads of films. He must count as one of the most prolific, even if his work is unknown outside Hong Kong.



Anyhow... have we got enough nominations to make a poll yet?

Any last-minute entries? Ken Lo, Frankie Chan, Donnie Yen, Matsuda Yusaku (Bad guy in "Black Rain"), Pei-pei Cheng ("Queen of swords")

[Peter H.]

Nobody's piped up with Sonny Chiba yet. There's my vote.

1) Ultra-cool, in a Clint Eastwood way
2) Stood the test of times and has adapted to diffeent movie styles (from Street Fighter to Storm Riders), he's even in Kill Bill Vol. 1
3) The man was Duke Togo (Golgo 13), it gets no cooler than that.

[Margaret Lo]

Yuen Wo Ping, the Master.

For choreographing: Swordsmen II, Fong SaiYuk, The Matrix series, Kill Bill, Once Upon a Time in China series and on and on.

Without him, its all flat.

[kimq]

Bruce Lee.

1] He was precise.
2] He was fast.
3] He inspires.

:nw:

[Soulend]

Originally posted by Yagyu Kenshi
You haven't seen him recently, have you?


Umm..I think he was being sarcastic. ;)

[PwarYuex]

Jet Li.

1. He is small
2. He is fast
3. He can't speak English.

[Mekugi]

Elvis. Yep, I said it, Elvis.

Ohh yeah and that Jackie Chan guy is up there for me too.


-R

[Mekugi]

Stanley, you have a really good point here.

However, I think Curly was the real master.
He could spin around in a circle on the floor and master of a myraid of improvised weapons. Anything at his disposal really, incliding but not limited to: Knitting Needles, Hammers, Pliers, the occasional Saber or suit of armor sword and of course the most deadly of all : the flower Vase. Also, he was tough enough to take anything the other Stooges would throw at him. He also was the downfall of the Stooges, without him Three Stooges School of Kung Fu was nothing.



-R
Originally posted by stanley neptune
Moe Howard(of The Three Stooges)

1) He came out on top in countless brawls with Larry Fine, Curly Howard and Shemp Howard.
2) He was the master of two finger eye poke (although Curly's one handed block planted on his nose was equally masterful) which was the part of a larger system called Stooge Ryu.
3) He had a very asian hair style for a white Jewish guy from the lower east side of Manhattan.

Stanley Neptune

[Dex]

I know this is going to offend everyone.

David Carradine in Kung Fu. The first introduction to Eastern martial arts to most people of my generation.

[kwilfar]

I would have to say Bruce Lee

1.he had technique and fairly good acting
2.he looked cool and his movies showed a new kind of martial arts movie
3. his movies have resisted the time factor

Jackie Chan is also worth mention.
I would also say Van Damme to be ironic but one has to have limits:D
I don't know japanese martial arts stars, sorry
Recently I enjoyed Christian Bale in equilibrium, although he is not a martial arts movie star.

LQ

[KhawMengLee]

Donny Yen...nuff said

[Shimura]

Mifune is the best for countless reasons
1. Who else can play the greatest swordsman of all time
and do it better than anyone
2. How many movies has Eastwood been in that were direct
copies (with slight genre changes) that Mifune has
done..ie Yojimbo/Fistful of dollars
3. Who was considered the best actor in Japanese cinema

I think Mifune takes the prize! :D

[Margaret Lo]

Originally posted by Dex
I know this is going to offend everyone.

David Carradine in Kung Fu. The first introduction to Eastern martial arts to most people of my generation.

Yep count me offended. Did you notice he wasn't even Chinese? Thanks to him I was chased around jr high and called grasshopper!! Little did I know I'd end up in MA at the time. Now I'm looking for that boy who harassed me. I even remember his name...watch out Alan Glickman...

M

[G. Zepeda]

I thought Mu-Lan was great.

1) She kicked the boy's butts.
2) She's not real.
3) She had a dragon following her around.

[kirigirisu]

Originally posted by Margaret Lo
Yep count me offended. Did you notice he wasn't even Chinese? Thanks to him I was chased around jr high and called grasshopper!! Little did I know I'd end up in MA at the time. Now I'm looking for that boy who harassed me. I even remember his name...watch out Alan Glickman...

M

Yeah, should have called it the "This Guy Isn't Chinese Show." Oh, and the remake back in the mid-ninties, call it the "This Guy STILL Isn't Chinese Show."

Plus he pretty much stole the role from Bruce Lee since the network execs didn't think a REAL Chinaman in a starring role would bring in the numbers.

Sadly enough, a lot of them STILL don't. Hot, schtuppable Kelly Hu type for the Yellow Fever Spike-TV crowd, maybe, but I think they'd think Bruce (in his prime) still wouldn't bring in a 4.4 overnight with a 5 or 6 share, even on cable.

Hmm... slight correction: Samo had the numbers but the show was exorbitantly over-budget.

And he was trying too hard to be Jackie Chan.

And Arsenio ain't no Chris Tucker.

Well, I can't complain too much. It DID get me out of a couple of fights in grade school because people automatically assumed I knew "Kurrotty" like Kwai Chang Cain.

Not enough, though.

Massachusetts STILL sucks donkey turds.

[Alec]

Ziyi Zhang
1) She's fast and smooth.
2) Her form is clean and precise.
3) If she were any hotter it would be illegal. :nw:

[Brian Owens]

Originally posted by Dex
I know this is going to offend everyone.

David Carradine in Kung Fu. The first introduction to Eastern martial arts to most people of my generation.

I don't think this counts -- if you're only allowed one nomination, that is; because David Caradine's "Martial Arts Acting" was done by stunt double Kam Yuen.

[Rachel]

I agree with Brian, David Carradine was the worst, he's an actor, not a "martial arts actor", AND he "took" the role from Bruce Lee, coz they didn't want oriental...

[PwarYuex]

Originally posted by G. Zepeda
I thought Mu-Lan was great.

That is such an underrated movie. It makes me laugh so hard, and the music is great.

[Brian Owens]

Originally posted by Rachel
I agree with Brian, David Carradine was the worst, he's an actor, not a "martial arts actor", AND he "took" the role from Bruce Lee, coz they didn't want oriental...

Well, I'd have to side with the network execs on that one.

Bruce Lee's accent was so thick that the majority of the American audience to whom the show was directed wouldn't have taken the time to try to understand him, and would have switched channels. Heck, even his movies had someone else's voice dubbed-over in the English language versions. Can you imagine what Mr. and Mrs. White Bread and Family, unable to understand his dialog, would have done to the ratings of the TV show?

Low Nielsen Ratings means no money means cancelled show.

For short dialogs and mostly action -- like in The Green Hornet or his guest appearances on Longstreet -- it wasn't a problem, and even added to the "inscrutable oriental master" facade. But Kung Fu required a lot more dialog and subtle nuance to get its message across, and I don't think Bruce Lee would have been the right choice.

Not saying David Carradine was the right choice, either, but that's another matter.

There's a thought, since this is the decade of "Hollywood remakes '70s TV shows into movies." Who should play Kwai Chang Caine and Master Po in the movie? Kwai Chang has to look at least half Caucasian, and Master Po 100% Chinese to follow the TV theme.

[UGY]

Hi,

Bruce Lee for sure !

1. Thii Fastest man ever
2. Good hearted
3. Kicked Chuck Norris for good

Mikko "UGY" Jääskeläinen

[Kimpatsu]

Originally posted by Yagyu Kenshi
There's a thought, since this is the decade of "Hollywood remakes '70s TV shows into movies." Who should play Kwai Chang Caine and Master Po in the movie? Kwai Chang has to look at least half Caucasian, and Master Po 100% Chinese to follow the TV theme.
Jet Li as Kwai Chang Caine.
Maybe Pat Morita as master Po?
Grasshopper.

[kirigirisu]

Originally posted by Yagyu Kenshi
Well, I'd have to side with the network execs on that one.

Bruce Lee's accent was so thick that the majority of the American audience to whom the show was directed wouldn't have taken the time to try to understand him, and would have switched channels. Heck, even his movies had someone else's voice dubbed-over in the English language versions. Can you imagine what Mr. and Mrs. White Bread and Family, unable to understand his dialog, would have done to the ratings of the TV show?

Low Nielsen Ratings means no money means cancelled show.


Hmm. Don't think that's quite correct.

Saw footage from a couple of interviews done with Bruce in the late 60's and early 70's, mostly for foreign (British, I think) talk shows. Smoked like a chiminey, used the word "man" as a filler quite a bit (bit reminicent of Tommy Chong), but he was quite understandable and articulate.

Also, you have to understand that given the horrible clamor of stuffing an ungodly amount of people into a disproportionately small number of square miles of then-British real estate, up until very recently, almost ALL Hong Kong productions were filmed MOS and all the sound was ADRed and folied-in in Post. Plus, given there's about eleventy-zillion different dialects of Chinese, it'd be easier just to film without sound then dub in the respective dialects (Cantonese and Mandarin being the most popular). Cuts costs and production time like you wouldn't believe (not having to stop filming every time an airplane flies over the set).

Even "Enter the Dragon," and American co-production, was dubbed in post.

The "accent" was a bit of an affectation, especially for "The Green Hornet," since most Middle-America round-eyes at the time couldn't accept that a Chinaman could speak intelligible English.

Hell, even in the 80's when I was growing up, I had many an ignorant piece of white trailer trash take offense to the fact that I spoke English better than them.

Massachusetts still sucks donkey turds, and I recommend the Great Glass Parking Lot treatment on them after we do it to the Middle East.

[Brian Owens]

Originally posted by kirigirisu
Also, you have to understand that given the horrible clamor of stuffing an ungodly amount of people into a disproportionately small number of square miles of then-British real estate, up until very recently, almost ALL Hong Kong productions were filmed MOS and all the sound was ADRed and folied-in in Post. Plus, given there's about eleventy-zillion different dialects of Chinese, it'd be easier just to film without sound then dub in the respective dialects (Cantonese and Mandarin being the most popular). Cuts costs and production time like you wouldn't believe (not having to stop filming every time an airplane flies over the set).

Yes, I know that most films from Hong Kong were/are post-dubbed (not ADR, which is Automated Dialog Replacement, but a cruder form simply called post-dubbing or looping). But in the English language versions of The Big Boss, Fist of Fury, The Chinese Connection, et al, it wasn't Bruce Lee's voice being looped. And yes, growing up in Hong Kong, and going to college here in Seattle, he had a good command of English -- but his accent wasn't Standard Spoken American English, it was a Chinese/British accent. I know a lot of "round eyed white trailer trash" who would have had a hard time understanding him.

By the way, I didn't grow up in the '80s as you did. I grew up in the '60s and I watched The Green Hornet and Longstreet when they were new shows. And more than once I had to answer to someone saying, "What did he just say?"

[kirigirisu]

I don't think you got the point.

I agree that Bruce's voice was never looped for the English versions of the feature flicks, but then again until the 80's, very few English versions of Hong Kong flicks had the original actors dubbing.

The actual point I was trying to make was this:

His "real" English was much more understandable than his "television" English. Hell, even the screen tests he did for the studios had him speaking articulately enough so that even round-eye trailer trash could understand, not the "Wemembah, towtow conthentwation," Elmer Fudd me-no-speakie hick boy affectation he used for both Longstreet and The Green Hornet.

Whatever. "Suits" still suck donkey. Trust me, I work with enough of them.

[Brian Owens]

Originally posted by kirigirisu
I don't think you got the point.

The actual point I was trying to make was this:

His "real" English was much more understandable than his "television" English. Hell, even the screen tests he did for the studios had him speaking articulately enough so that even round-eye trailer trash could understand, not the "Wemembah, towtow conthentwation," Elmer Fudd me-no-speakie hick boy affectation he used for both Longstreet and The Green Hornet.

Oh, I got the point. I just disagree with you. And I've seen the BBC interview you mentioned in an earlier post.

Trust me; although you and I could understand him just fine, a lot of Americans in the '60s wouldn't have tried. I'm not saying it's right, just that that's the way it was.

Even today in a lot of movies where non-Americans are speaking English (the Amazonians in Medicine Man, for example) the studios go through the time and expense to add English subtitles to the accented English dialog. They do that, because they know how dense some of the audience will be when it comes to understanding accented English. (And, yes, I know that Bruce Lee's English was a lot better than the Medicine Man's. I'm just using that as an example, so don't rag on me.)

Also, I'm not defending the suits in Hollywood, now or then. Even as a teenager in the '70s it irritated me when they would but caucasians in bad makeup in lead roles where an asian should have played the part...and usually played in a very negative, stereotypical way. Marlon Brando in Teahouse of the August Moon, Mickey Rooney in Breakfast at Tiffany's, and Sir John Gilgud (sp.?) in Lost Horizon being three examples off the top of my head.

So...getting back to the topic of this thread; I think Bruce Lee was one of the top cinema martial artists ever. He was a real martial artist, not some dancer/bodybuilder wanna-be like Jean Claude Van Damned. But I don't blame racism for him losing the role of Kwai Chang Caine (Hollywood politics and the Carradine family's lobbying, maybe.)

[kirigirisu]

We'll just agree to disagree.

I say that while studio politics (an evil in and of itself) was the primary reason for David "I'm starring in 'Kill Bill' as Uma's former lover" Carradine getting the role, so-called "racism" was a factor in the decision.

Little more prevalent in those days than most people care to remember.

Then again, it's harder to forget when you were chased out of the toy store when you were 6 because the owner didn't want any "dirty chinks" in her store.

[Shitoryu Dude]

That sort of crap still goes on today. Just a couple of years ago when my mother in law was having her beach house built some @$$wipe bigot in his senile retirement was asking the builder if it was true that some "damned Orientals" were moving in. For at least a year after construction was finished this same retard would make it a point to drive past the place twice a day whenever anyone was staying there. It's a dead end road with only one house on it, so there was no mistake about what he was doing. He had to make sure "them Orientals weren't up to no good".

Very tempted to take the pistol and block the road one of these times when he makes his 3-point turn at the end of the drive and explain to him that redneck white boy don't like his f***ing attitude and to lay off before I file a lawsuit for harassment.

:beer:

[Brian Owens]

Yep. I'm always shocked when that stuff happens here in Seattle. I expect it in the South (which I guess is a bigotted attitude on my part), but not here.

This is where Ruby Chow (Bruce Lee's "foster mother") went from restaurant owner to one of the most powerful city councilwomen in history.

Washington has the first Chinese-American governor in the U.S.

We're one of the most diverse cities anywhere. And yet it happens.

When I was 14 I got beat up by three brothers of a girl whom I had dared to ask to a dance, because I was a "gringo" and only Mexicans were good enough for their sister.

My mother didn't want one of my best friends to come to our house because he was black.

When the Oklahoma City bombing happened one of the supervisors at my security company said we should "round up all the rag heads in the country and send 'em all back to Arabia." When it turned out that the bombers were good 'ol American white boys he didn't say a word.

Things are slowly changing, but it's often two steps forward and one step back...or more. Racism, religous intolerance, homophobia...we all have to be on guard.

[Shitoryu Dude]

I bet the Mexican guys didn't even know the origin of the word "gringo" - it's just another word that means "nigger" to them. I wonder how well they would have liked it if a few white guys decided to pound the hell out of them for being "taco benders", "beaners" or "wetbacks"?

I've noticed that whenever somebody has a real problem with someone the wrong color dating their sister, they themselves don't usually see an issue with themselves getting a little interracial nookie. After all, being of the "superior" race, nobody could possibly object to HIM bending over their sister.

:beer:

[Peter H.]

I honestly didn't see all that much racism until two things happened:

1) I went to England and lived in a town with a "Little America" District, but not in the district. The result was me being the target for the few anti-americans in the town. (It was a small few, maybe a dozen, everybody else was really cool to me)

2) I married a woman of mixed race. About six months ago we went to apply to rent a house. We saw the house being fixed up and the "For Rent" sign being put in the yard, it hadn't even listed in the newspaper yet. I called the owner, and she called the realtor. The Realtor assured me that nobody had called about the house yet, and all I had to do was come in fill out the application and put down the security deposit and the house was mine. I had her fax me the application, and an hour later, my wife, two kids, and I are at the realtors office to turn it in. We don't even get in the door, the realtor comes out and takes the app. She then tells me don't worry about the deposit, she'll collect it when I pay first months rent. An hour after that, I get a call from her, "So, sorry, but someone came and put an application and paid the deposit before me." She then tells me she has another house for rent, of course this house is in the bad part of town, known for being the "Black Neighborhood"

My wife also tells me the stories of her dealing with the white supremecists in Georgia. Her being mixed didn't make her good enough for them to be civil to, but she was good enough to come watch dance and try to bang.

<--Hey, I just noticed someone censored my signature-->

[Margaret Lo]

Originally posted by kirigirisu
Then again, it's harder to forget when you were chased out of the toy store when you were 6 because the owner didn't want any "dirty chinks" in her store.

Gosh Will T. you gotta let it go. And if you grew up in Mass, odd are good that crusty ole b***h was Irish and not too long ago got chased outta stores too for being down at the bottom of the ladder.

Success is still the best revenge.

M

[Shitoryu Dude]

This concept of the best revenge being "living well" or "success" is wrong. It only even counts if you can rub their noses in it.

The best revenge involves pain - lots of excruciating, unending pain, just when they thought it was safe.

:beer:

[Julian Gerhart]

Originally posted by Shitoryu Dude
This concept of the best revenge being "living well" or "success" is wrong. It only even counts if you can rub their noses in it.

The best revenge involves pain - lots of excruciating, unending pain, just when they thought it was safe.

:beer:

thats a beutiful sentiment. congradulations Harvey, you just single handedly restored my faith in the good of humanity.

[pacman2323]

Shintaro Katsu AKA Zatoichi
1.He is funny
2.He shows that having a handicap does not have to limt oneself.
3.He smuggles drugs.:)

-Chi Jonesone

[tmanifold]

I can't believe no one ahs mentioned him yet.

Mark Dracosos(sp?)
I only need 2 movies as proof.

Only the strong and Drive. Two low budget movies but they really showcased how good this guy is. He ain't a super actor but he has presence and he if a phenomal martial artist.

[kirigirisu]

Originally posted by Margaret Lo
Gosh Will T. you gotta let it go. And if you grew up in Mass, odd are good that crusty ole b***h was Irish and not too long ago got chased outta stores too for being down at the bottom of the ladder.

Success is still the best revenge.

M

Nope, she was as WASPy as they came. My Irish buddy got chased out with me for being a "mick" and a "chink lover."

And I have to agree with Harvey on the revenge thing.

I'll take a couple of strafing runs with a squadron of Warthogs (gots to love those depleted uranium rounds) followed by some high-altitude bombing with phosporus and napalm followed by a nuclear strike with cruise missles, starting from the New York border and heading east to the tip of Cape Cod :D

[freedom_fighter]

Don't really know his name but he plays on mortal combat, beverly hills ninja,the dude with long black hair

1. he is really fast
2 very technical
3.he knows several different types of kung fu and karate.







T.C. Goss

[xensu]

Tomisaburo Wakayama

[Dex]

Originally posted by tmanifold
I can't believe no one ahs mentioned him yet.

Mark Dracosos(sp?)
I only need 2 movies as proof.

Only the strong and Drive. Two low budget movies but they really showcased how good this guy is. He ain't a super actor but he has presence and he if a phenomal martial artist.

Dacascos ;)

And what about Crying Freeman and Brotherhood of the Wolf?

Doesn't really matter anymore. Movie editing has removed the need for 'good' martial artists in movies. 10 angle changes in 3 seconds can make anyone look amazing, even if it took 4 hours to film.

[Lan Nguyen]

My vote go to three girls in "Charlie Angel":

1 They know Martial Arts in very short time
2 They kick some big butts with some very light punch and feather kicks (must be inner Chi)
3 And they can dodge the bullet without slow motion like Keanu need in the Matrix

I am seeking their secret teacher.

[Kimpatsu]

Pointless, Lan. They're on wires. This is a thread about real cinema MA. You should know this: there are wireless LAN now... :D

[Peter H.]

Has anyone mention Gedde Watanabe yet? (Kuni from UHF) Wheel of Fish has to be one of my favorite movie skits, and besides, even when his students miss, they punch through walls.