Is AJJ a dying art?

[Mollberg]

wow,there are not to meany post here...I was wondering how meany forms or schools of aikijujitsu are there? I know of two or three but thats about it im kind of worryed is this a dieing art?

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Stay the spear

[Nathan Scott]

Mr. Spear wrote:
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Some would say that there are too many styles! I wouldn't worry about Aikijujutsu dying off - it is the "in" thing to study these days.

The only concern about Aikijujutsu is the amount of committment and time it takes to become proficient at it. Some instructor's/groups are more forthcoming with instructing students in the principles of the art, and other's prefer that the student put in a certain amount of time before transmitting fundamental aiki principles. Students must train very hard and be very patient to study these styles.

It just depends on which variant you choose to study.

The Aikijujutsu forum was just recently re-opened, that is why there is not much here yet. You missed all the fun the first time around. The secrets of aiki were announced and aiki charlatan's were thoroughly (verbally) thrashed about the head and shoulders with ferocious binary code. It was really something.

Regards,


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Nathan Scott
Shinkendo & Aiki Buken Honbu dojo (http://www.shinkendo.com)
Tsuki Kage dojo (http://www.tsuki-kage.com)
Japanese Sword Arts Discussion Forum (http://www.swordforum.com/jsa)

[This message has been edited by Nathan Scott (edited 05-31-2000).]

[Mark Jakabcsin]

"You missed all the fun the first time around. The secrets of aiki were announced and aiki charlatan's were thoroughly (verbally) thrashed about the head and shoulders with ferocious binary code. It was really something."

Snort! Smile. Snort! I like ferocious binary code comment very much. How would one spell aiki in code?

mark

[Nathan Scott]

1100101000010010101101010010100000011111010101010101010011101110101010110101110101011101100101010100 01101010110010110010110101110101010

010011100010101001010101111010100100011110101 0010101110110.

Actually, I don't know. Just made it up, but you can feel free to use it if you like. Maybe it's something good.

I guess I should be careful, lest I crash Mr. Lindsey's hard drive!

Yuck yuck yuck...

Regards,


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Nathan Scott
Shinkendo & Aiki Buken Honbu dojo (http://www.shinkendo.com)
Tsuki Kage dojo (http://www.tsuki-kage.com)
Japanese Sword Arts Discussion Forum (http://www.swordforum.com/jsa)


[This message has been edited by Nathan Scott (edited 05-31-2000).]

[Jeff Cook]

Mark,

I'm afraid binary aiki is something that should be felt, rather than read! http://216.10.1.92/ubb/smile.gif

Jeff Cook
Wabujitsu

[Mark Jakabcsin]

"I'm afraid binary aiki is something that should be felt, rather than read! "

Yes and it is all a secret which you can't tell me about or else you have to kill me. http://216.10.1.92/ubb/smile.gif

mark

[Henry Walker]

Hi Nathan!

Sorry I missed talking to you at the seminar. (hee hee!) But thank you for not thrashing me soundly on this site.

Henry

[tanaka]

:smash:
I have a topic that I had to disscuss with the rest of the true Martial Arts Praticioners that are out there. For those that are in pain every night after training. For those that put forth the sweat and does not use a lot of upper lip action.
I hope neither to offend nor disrespect, but to those that do know me, I come from a generation when Teachers of the Arts were stern men that truly taught. I hope to one day carry on that tradition. But the one thing that I refuse to do is to wait for old Age to set in to get my point across. Each day that I am blessed by the Creator to have the oppourtunity to practice, and I do and I thank God for that.
The funny thing is that I feel alone out here trying to do my own thing. I am not unhappy, yet I have one question. When is enough, enough. Is Japan the end all to Martial Science. Do we have to continue to keep that engrained in our minds?
I have to say this, Uis:
to People such as: KondoKatsuyukiSensei,ObataSensei,LynSensei,TanemuraSensei.
All of these men are far ahead of their peers, and because I am only a junior in this field there is only so much that I am allowed to say or express.
I remember when things were simple, now it is an ass kissing contest.
Has everyone out there got their wires crossed.
A lot of Arts are dying because of blind predjudice and foolish notions. I just plan on keeping real, The sweat,the pain, the blood.
TakedaSensei said To Understand the new, One must study the old.
Just keeping it real.
Funny thing to ask your student as he crosses the floor, what are you here for. The money, the girls, self pride, ego and vanity.
I never said I was perfect.
Just opening alot of blind eyes
For all of those with the presupposed combat scenarios, remember Combat has no Flux, No Kata, No rules, No quarter is asked or given.
There are many geniuses here and abroad. Give due respect to those on both sides.
Stop and think for one minute, when the barrel of the Gun is pointed at you and the person across the room is a teenager with all hope gone.
Just got to keep it Real
Yours Humbly in the Arts
Sensei Eric G. Alleyne
The Grand Dragon Academy of Combative Arts

[CMM]

Humble sensei are the best kind...

[Cady Goldfield]

Is "sensei" a title one can bestow upon himself, if humble?

[shadow42]

Sensei is generally not something you refer to yourself with. It is rather self-centered to refer to yourself as a role model. However that is a trivial point, you seem to have some noble aspirations and I wish you good luck

[Cady Goldfield]

I agree. There are some good points there, and I hear where he's coming from. Obviously, Mr. Alleyne has had this on his mind for some time, having been a member of the forum since 2000, yet posting seldom. His comments are a run-on paragraph, which makes them hard to decipher at one sitting, but I know others with similar beliefs and heart who have a difficult time coming across. Not sure this fellow deserves a karma of -25!

[Ron Tisdale]

No disrespect to Mr. Alleyne, but I do know that I at least have let him know in the past that he commits a number of "fashion errors" when he posts calling himself sensei, spells what I assume is Osu as uis, uses run on sentences, and posts some of the things he does on a public board. I guess I'm not the only one who wonders why the behavior never changes...

I have noticed that he is in Phila. Maybe he and I can get together for a beer sometime and chat. He can then fill me in on all the silly things I do :)

Ron Tisdale

[Nathan Scott]

I'd like to pick one of the comments posed and reply to it:

IMO, senior instructors should be doing most the yacking/publishing, while those more junior should be doing most of the listening. That is how correct information is spread and learned.

As an example, when I was still a relatively new student of Obata sensei, I decided to write an article in our new newsletter to help flesh it out. I was advised that I should not try to write anything authoritative, but rather should write about something like observations and experience in training (aka: fluff). I was a bit disappointed when I first heard this, but I now understand why. What I wanted to write about, which I felt at the time knowledgable about, would have been mostly wrong upon reflection. Being a student at the Honbu, the article probably would have been given more weight than it should have, and I would have accidentally spread misinformation in my instructor's newsletter without realizing it until years later.

Misinformation is MUCH harder to correct than correct information is to transmit right the first time, and the budo world is already plagued enough with misinformation and unqualified instruction.

Patience is a hard thing for students in this modern world to learn and apply, but those that are patient will all have their time. There is a proper time and place for everything, and knowing when and where that is can be a difficult thing to learn. This is one place where the concept of "shu-ha-ri" needs to be correctly understood and applied.

Experience, under qualified guidance, goes a long way in these arts, and should be properly considered - and of course, cross referenced when possible.

All training and experience is not necessarily good though. A correct foundation is very important to continued learning.

Regards,