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Ting Chuan
08-20-2004, 09:41 AM
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/0818042nroyalton1.html (http://)

Sounds Like he got it in the end!

Okay bad pun, but still whadda ya think-
was it okay, vigilante justice, or wrong?







Rob Acox

Ting Chuan
08-20-2004, 09:44 AM
NORTH ROYALTON, Ohio -- An alleged peeping Tom remains in the intensive care unit after reportedly being assaulted with a tree branch, NewsChannel5 reported.
Video

Peeping Tom Beating




Officials said Mario Russo, 44, was attacked after he was spotted outside a bedroom window wearing his pants around his ankles and watching a 5-year-old girl who was sleeping in a unit at the Bunker Ridge Apartments.

Russo was reportedly hiding in bushes.
Police said after he was discovered a group of six people, include the girl's mother, aunt and their boyfriends attacked him and brutally beat him for more than an hour.
Beating Suspects

The girl's mother, Stacy Umstott, 28; her aunt, Athena Lemieux, 20; Brandon Breedon, 21; Nicholas Phipps, 21; and Khald Arafat, 34; and a 15-year-old are in police custody. They face felonious assault and rape charges. Murder charges could be filed if Russo dies.
The girl's aunt admitted to sexually assaulting Russo with a tree branch, police said.
The incident was caught on tape.
Meanwhile, police said that citizens should not take matters into their own hands
"To take matters into their own hands like they did was just way, way beyond reason," North Royalton Detective Jay Drake said.

Shitoryu Dude
08-20-2004, 10:23 AM
Excessive, but totally understandable.

Should have just shot the SOB.

:beer:

Paul Kerr
08-20-2004, 10:42 AM
Maybe a bit over the top to beat on the scumbag for an hour, but very understandable. I've no sympathy whatsoever for vermin like that.

The tree branch had to hurt. :D

Soulend
08-20-2004, 11:40 AM
The mom is pretty hot. :D

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/graphics/art3/0818042nroyalton1.jpg

Matt Molloy
08-20-2004, 11:50 AM
Originally posted by Ting Chuan
"To take matters into their own hands like they did was just way, way beyond reason," North Royalton Detective Jay Drake said.

This is debatable.

I can't think of anyone who would have reacted any differently.

Save perhaps to go quite a lot further.

Harvey, for once in my life I think that I'm agreeing with you.

Sillal
08-20-2004, 11:57 AM
He's lucky he only caught a beating and not some slugs.

pgsmith
08-20-2004, 12:17 PM
Time for me to play a little devil's advocate on you guys. ;)

Point ... the guy is a nasty pervert that peeps in little kid's windows. Beating deserved.

Point ... sodomizing someone with a tree branch is pretty damn disgusting.

Conclusion ... according to you guys it is perfectly fine to be incredibly disgusting if you think think someone else was first.

Does this mean that you think that the bunch torturing the prisoners at Abu Graib were right? Does this also mean that you condone cutting off a kid's hand if he's caught shoplifting? How far do you go before saying something is excessive?

Now don't get me wrong. I think the beating was definitely deserved. I just think that even considering something like sexually assaulting someone with a tree branch is a bit out of line. You've gone out of the realm of justice and into the realm of gratuitous torture. That's almost as sick as the original offense! It would have been a lot more justifiable in my books to just kill the bastard and be done with it.

Just a couple of things to think about.

Shitoryu Dude
08-20-2004, 12:23 PM
Sodomizing someone with a tree branch is out of line - it is torture. Giving him a good smacking around as you "pacify" him while waiting for the police to arrive is, in my opinion, OK.

Personally, I think a perv/future child molester like that just needs to be taken out and executed before he is the cause of an Amber alert. No fuss, just get it done with.

:beer:

BC
08-20-2004, 12:40 PM
The beating was deserved, but the tree buggery was excessive. :moon: :eek: I have to admit, though, as the father of a now 2-week old little girl, I have a hard time thinking how I could possibly restrain myself if I caught the scumbag pedophile trying that on my property.

Similar to the case in Chicago last year in which two drunk men were beaten to death by a group of neighbors after they crashed their van into a group of teenage girls. The Chicago police arrested and prosecuted several of the alleged beaters.

Does anyone remember a case several years ago in which the father of a boy who was sexually assaulted shot the pedophile while he was walking into court? I seem to remember someone had actually caught it on video. I think the father eventually got off on a temporary insanity plea.

Bushi Jon
08-20-2004, 01:16 PM
We had a guy that would drive around the hood and talk to all the little boys. I had told this guy 100 time not to talk to my kids and to leave but according to the police he did not solicite any of the children so there was little they could do. Everybody was up in arms the night he got caught wacking it outside my neibors window where his 8 year old was sleeping. We did not get a chance to beat him but I shure would have. It turned out after they caught him doing it again in another location they got a search warrent for the perv found something like 20000 images of childporn on the cpu. His neibors beat him pretty bad even poured battery acid on his willey. He got what he needed. The sad part is he will be out in about 10 more months. I also remember the cops hinting that we should through a sack over this guys head and take him fishing(but that never happened)they seemed pissed they could not do anything

Saburo
08-20-2004, 01:17 PM
If I ever have kids I'm going to grow rose bushes.

:)

Soulend
08-20-2004, 01:22 PM
Think I would have had someone call the police while I took him to the ground from behind and held him, possibly choking him out in the process. Can't imagine he could put up that much of a struggle with his pants around his ankles. Afraid it's not really me to go stuffing objects into people's backsides, or beating peeping toms half to death over the course of an hour as it's a little over-the-top. Also, I don't particularly enjoy being in jail.

Ting Chuan
08-20-2004, 01:23 PM
Well my .02 is that once the story gets distributed nation wide and while what they did is right or wrong gets debated endlessly, in the end (no joke intended)it sends out a strong message to pedophiles and child molesters that people/parents aren't going to stand for that behavior anymore.
It just may give them a moments pause before they try to commit some henious act, and in that moment they may decide to not do it.
But then again maybe not.

Shitoryu Dude
Personally, I think a perv/future child molester like that just needs to be taken out and executed before he is the cause of an Amber alert. No fuss, just get it done with.

*Sigh* If only we could do it that way! What i don't get is that it is proven that these types of people cannot be reformed, so why do we as a society try?



Rob Acox

BC
08-20-2004, 01:47 PM
Originally posted by Ting Chuan
Well my .02 is that once the story gets distributed nation wide and while what they did is right or wrong gets debated endlessly, in the end (no joke intended)it sends out a strong message to pedophiles and child molesters that people/parents aren't going to stand for that behavior anymore.
It just may give them a moments pause before they try to commit some henious act, and in that moment they may decide to not do it.
But then again maybe not.

Rob Acox

I think maybe not. Those people are already at least one can short of a six-pack, and most likely do not think about the ramifications of getting caught. IMHO.

Shitoryu Dude
08-20-2004, 02:04 PM
Some 20 years ago in Florida there was a MA instructor who was sexually abusing a pair of brothers (teenagers). When the scandal broke he fled to Texas. He was caught and after some court proceedings was extradited to Florida to stand trial. All of this was in the media and the exact flight this guy was coming back on was not only well known to everyone, but the press was there with cameras.

The father of the two boys decided that he'd go down to see him as well. He got his pistol and jacket and went and waited down by the pay phones near the gate. He pretended to be on the phone, and as the massive group of press surrounding the pervert passed him he hung up the phone, turned around, and blew the pervert's brains out during a live television feed. He dropped his gun and surrendered right away.

He got 40 hours of community service, suspended.

:beer:

BC
08-20-2004, 02:11 PM
Thanks Harvey. That is the story I previously referenced. I couldn't remember the details as well as you.

Shitoryu Dude
08-20-2004, 02:20 PM
Suffice to say, watching a video of a child molester getting executed leaves a lasting impression. It was part of a news program where they were going over just such examples of "vigilante" justice and how it is treated in the US.

By and large, if you don't go overboard (tree branch up the butt) and the situation has a large emotional appeal/factor involved, most Americans are quite forgiving of personally administered executions to those who have it coming. Cops hate it, but the DA usually knows they won't get a conviction - particulary down south.

:beer:

Soulend
08-20-2004, 06:51 PM
Then again, this vermin was a peeping tom, not molesting the child. If he was attempting to do the latter, I honestly wouldn't have given a hoot in hell whether 'society' forgave me or not for what I did in response.

And I still think the mom is hot. Should have been peeping in her window.

PwarYuex
08-20-2004, 10:08 PM
I would have run out with scissors and cut his **** off while his jerking over such a young girl.