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Dave Humm
10-13-2005, 05:06 PM
Hey guys,

I've got my head stuck in to a bit of research and I wondered if anyone here could put me in touch with legitimate Tenshin Shoden Katori Shinto Ryu Sensei (ideally in the UK or, in Europe)

I'm going to do a bit of Google with this also but as with most things unless one is directly involved, how does one know credible from cruddy.

Thanks in advance

gendzwil
10-13-2005, 05:58 PM
Website is here (http://www.tenshinsho-den-Katori-Shinto-Ryu.org/), UK instructor is Michael Jay.

poryu
10-14-2005, 01:22 AM
Hi

I know someone who contacted Mike Jay and he said he was not taking on any students.

I know the Sugino branch affiliated to Hatakeyama is up in stoke as my mate trains with them

This is there site
http://www.geocities.com/katori_uk/

kongoshin
10-14-2005, 04:29 AM
You could also contact Eri Kusano sensei - a long time student of Yoshio Sugino. She's japanese and located in Norway.

Her address is: Eri Kusano (kusano@kakudokan.no)

Website: Kakudokan (http://www.kakudokan.no/)

Cron
10-14-2005, 06:09 AM
Hi,

in Germany is another teacher of Katori Shinto Ryu.

Here is a german information website about Katori Shinto ryu in Germany.

Site (www.tsksr.de)

Bye bye

Cron

gendzwil
10-14-2005, 08:13 AM
The request was for legitimate TSKSR instructors. There are none in Germany or Norway, Mr. Jay is the contact in the UK.

poryu
10-14-2005, 08:15 AM
Hi

Mr Jay is the ocntact for the Otake (and Soke) branch, however there also exists the Sugino which is legitmate in there own eyes as they recieved permission from the previous soke.

this argument has been discussed to death in previous threads so no eed for us to continue it here now is there.

kongoshin
10-14-2005, 08:50 AM
....however there also exists the Sugino which is legitmate in there own eyes as they recieved permission from the previous soke.


FYI: They have a close relationship with the current soke as well.


this argument has been discussed to death in previous threads so no eed for us to continue it here now is there.

That doesn't mean it is correct.

ulvulv
10-14-2005, 02:11 PM
Kristoffer
Det har vært uendelige diskusjoner på dette forumet, kanske et av de mest omtalte emnene i hele e-budos historie er folks oppfatning av relasjonen mellom dine læreres lærer og otakes "gren". Prøv et lite søk, og du har tidsfordriv for mange timer med å lese igjennom de. Du blir ikke så mye klokere av det, men du vil se at holdningene som du allerede har sett i denne korte tråden, er de dominerende. Den som tappert prøver å argumentere mot denne "konsensusen", blir sablet ned, langt ut i det usaklige. Om det er korrekt eller ikke.

Mvh Roar, iaido. Bergen

Steve Delaney
10-14-2005, 03:11 PM
Errr,

Could we have that in English please?

ulvulv
10-14-2005, 03:21 PM
Sorry, I could have pm`d Kristoffer. No big truths or accusations anyways.

Chidokan
10-14-2005, 03:40 PM
Is that what a flame looks like in Norwegian???!!! :D
Reg Winnall and friends in Stoke are a good bunch, although Reg is now semi-retired due to his mrs not being too well. They have Regoli sensei come over from Italy every so often, so although they keep quiet they are quite well organised.

ulvulv
10-14-2005, 04:47 PM
Flame? Oh no, as i see it there are several good bunches around, who carry on certain traditions with sincere, correct and hard practise, despise what the righteous koryu "internetionalists" say about "legitimacy". Their contribution to the continuation and survival of the ryu can be just as important in the long run, as the "main branch".

But it aint my cup of sake, I am not personally involved in this matter, being just a small indian in the big tribe of mean bastards called the kendo-community. Legitimate bastards every one I have seen so far, no need of lineage to prove that. Haha.