Nathan Scott
02-07-2006, 08:42 PM
Welcome!
This "Bo, Naginata and Yari (and all related weapon arts)" section of e-budo is an academic-style discussion and archive forum, focusing on preferably koryu (classical) Japanese ryu-ha and Atarashii Naginata.
SUBJECT CRITERIA
In order to encourage discussion, styles and traditions that are gendai {post-Meiji} and/or not recognized formally as koryu, will be accepted as topics for discussion, but please limit discussions of non-classical arts and consider posting extensive posts of this nature to other forums. Also, we already have a jodo/jojutsu forum here at e-budo, so please use this jojutsu forum for jo related subjects. Be advised I WILL DISCOURAGE discussions of subjects considered internal elements of any extant ryu-ha, and will enforce requests from members of such ryu-ha to edit information they consider to be sensitive.
POSTING GUIDELINES
In addition to the four basic e-budo rules for participation, I would offer a few more points to consider before contributing:
1) If you are new to this forum, please have a look around first and get a feel for the atmosphere and manner before posting. Each forum has it's own feel and characteristic.
Additionally, the information you're looking for may already be posted. There is a search function (http://204.95.207.136/vbulletin/search.php?s=) available from the forum index page that will help you find what you are looking for. Similar threads in this forum are periodically combined (merged) and thread titles edited to enhance such search results.
2) Those that are new to martial arts or polearms might consider listening more than posting - or better yet, thinking up good questions to encourage discussion among those that may have more experience and knowledge in the given subject. Everyone has the right to an opinion, but unless you are prepared to offer a source for your opinion, or back it up with experience and/or credentials, please consider keeping unsubstantiated and unsupported opinions private.
3) Those that offer responses to questions should likewise be prepared to back up their facts and opinions with sources, experience and/or credentials for others to take into consideration. Please avoid posting assumptions or conclusions based off of hearsay or poorly researched material, as this only adds to the massive amount of misinformation found on the internet.
4) Please consider your words and temper your emotions (tone) before posting. Flames and inappropriate posts will not be tolerated. Inappropriate posts and threads will be nuked, edited, pruned or moved as deemed necessary to facilitate fluid navigation and timely research throughout this informational resource.
LOOKING FOR A DOJO?
There is a database in a subforum called the United States Naginata Federation (http://www.e-budo.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=130"[/url]"Bo, Naginata and Yari Dojo Finder"[/url] to assist those looking for a dojo in their area. This forum is a sub-forum inside the main Polearms forum you are in now, and is located towards the top of the main page. Please look there for existing leads and post any questions about dojo locations there. It would also be a good idea to search the main Polearms forum and the net in general for feedback on a training opportunity or instructor before joining a dojo - but please do not use the dojo finder forum for long debates!
YOUR MODERATOR
Though I specialize in Japanese swordsmanship and unarmed Japanese arts, I have been training in naginata for approximately 10 years at the time of this posting. I also trained in Okinawan Bojutsu (Inoue Motokatsu line) for a number of years, though I discontinued it a couple of years ago. While I'll surely post from time to time on subjects of interest, understand that the position of moderator is primarily that of administrative duties, concerned mostly with managing tempers, supervising postings, encouraging discussions and providing a productive atmosphere for others to participate in and organize/document valuable information. Those qualified to contribute to a subject are encouraged to post, however, if someone with more experience or knowledge than myself does not offer a response to a new thread, then I probably will.
Be advised that I will moderate threads as objectively and fairly as possible, regardless of any affiliations, seniority issues or friendships that may be at stake between myself and others by doing so.
Also, there will not be any flame wars here. Remember that you are a guest on this site, so if you can't communicate reasonably, politely and rationally, then please take a minute to calm down, have someone else write the post for you, or just don't contribute.
The budo world is a small world, and theres no reason why we can't have productive conversations and get along. Please respect each persons right to have a different position or opinion than your own.
Anyway, end of sermon. I think those of you who have been on the net for a while will understand why I feel it is necessary to set this groundwork to ensure mature, productive interactions.
RESOURCES
Following are some credible, useful links for those new to Polearms and Polearm arts:
[url="http://www.naginata.org)
Southern California Naginata Federation (http://www.scnf.org)
All Japan Naginata Federation {Japanese} (http://naginata.jp)
All Japan Naginata Federation {English} (http://naginata.jp/eng/eng1.html)
East Coast Naginata Federation (http://www.ecnf.org/ecnf/ecnf.htm)
Northern California Naginata Federation (http://www.naginata.org/ncnf/ncnf.html)
Rocky Mountain Naginata Federation (no web page)
Australian Naginata Federation (http://home.vicnet.net.au/~austnf)
Fédération de Naginata {France} (http://www.fnag.org)
Associação de Naguinata do Brasil {Brazil} (http://www.naguinata.com.br)
All New Zealand Naginata Federation (no web page)
Fédération Belge De Naginata {Belgium} (http://users.compaqnet.be/BelgiumNaginata)
Nederlandse Naginata Renmei {The Netherlands} (http://www.naginata.nl)
Swedish Budo Federation (http://www.budo.se/kendo)
Canadian Naginata Federation (http://www.naginata.ca)
Naginata in Great Britain (http://members.aol.com/uknaginata/index.htm)
Tendo-ryu Naginatajutsu {English} (http://www.naginata.org/shingetsukai/shingetsukai.html)
Jikishinkage-ryu Naginatajutsu {English} (http://www.hawaiinaginata.org/index.html)
Kendo World Magazine (http://www.kendo-world.com). Though the magazine focuses primarily on kendo, there is a section on naginata that often contains valuable historical information on the art and ryu-ha. Great magazine.
Kendo World Discussion Forums / Naginata Forum (http://www.kendo-world.com/forum/). They've had a naginata forum and kobudo forum up for some time, and have some solid contributors. Worth taking a look through.
**
Also, those interested in Polearms please consider picking up and reading (currently in print):
"Naginata - The Definitive Guide", by Alexander Bennett. 2005, Kendo World Publications, Ltd. See Kendo World (http://www.kendo-world.com) website. A great starter that covers primarily Atarashii Naginata, but also has valuable overviews of naginata history, Tendo-ryu, and Jikishinkage-ryu.
"Old School - Essays on Japanese Martial Traditions", by Ellis Amdur. 2002, Edgework (http://www.ellisamdur.com/buy.html). If you are interested in classical naginata arts, be sure to read everything that Ellis has written on the subject. His essays comprise a large amount of reliable English language information on the arts, which are compiled in this book. Contains history and information on the naginata of Tendo-ryu, Jikishinkage-ryu, Toda-ha buko-ryu, Higo ko-ryu, Tenshin shoden katori shinto-ryu, Maniwa nen-ryu.
"Koryu Bujutsu - Classical Warrior Traditions of Japan", edited by Diane Skoss. 1997, Koryu Books (http://www.koryubooks.com/store/martialartsbooks.html). A great series of books. This one includes information on Owari kan-ryu sojutsu, Tendo-ryu naginatajutsu, and an interview with Sawada Hanae of Tendo-ryu.
"Sword and Spirit - Classical Warrior Traditions of Japan", edited by Diane Skoss. 1999, Koryu Books (http://www.koryubooks.com/store/martialartsbooks.html). A great series of books. This one includes information on Toda-ha buko-ryu naginatajutsu, Yoshin-ryu naginatajutsu, and Hozoin-ryu Takada-ha sojutsu.
"Keiko Shokon - Classical Warrior Traditions of Japan", edited by Diane Skoss. 2002, Koryu Books (http://www.koryubooks.com/store/martialartsbooks.html). A great series of books. This one includes and interview with Nitta Suzuyo, headmaster of Toda-ha buko-ryu naginatajutsu.
"Japanese Spears - Polearms and Their Use in Old Japan", by Roald and Patricia Knutsen. 2004, Global Oriental. An updated version of the out-of-print book they wrote in 1965, "Japanese Polearms". A valuable work in English on Japanese polearms, including historical illustrations and photos of polearms. Though I find this book to be a valuable resource, in view of the lack of English language publications on Japanese polearms, be advised that both the original and the updated version of this book are not without their share of errors.
"150 Japanese Polearm Terms", by W.M. Hawley. 1997, W.M. Hawley Publications. A short but useful resource with weapon nomenclature and their associated kanji. Nice. The publications by Hawley are largely overlooked by budo-ka - take some time to look through their site: W.M. Hawley (http://www.wmhawley.com)
"Sports V Course - Naginata", translated by Alexander Bennett. 1999, International Naginata Federation. An English translation of the Japanese edition published by the All Japan Naginata Federation (Atarashii Naginata). Intended as a supplement for students of the art.
"Illustrated Naginata". 1990, All Japan Naginata Federation. An English translation of the Japanese edition originally published by the All Japan Naginata Federation in 1981 (Atarashii Naginata). Currently available through the SCNF (http://www.scnf.org/video.html) and other sources. Intended as a supplement for beginning students of the art.
"Zen Nihon Naginata no Kata". 2005, All Japan Naginata Federation. Japanese language book focusing on the Zen Nihon Naginata Kata, a standardized set of naginata vs. naginata kata based on koryu techniques, and typically taught at sandan level and up. Intended as a supplement for senior students of the art.
"Nihon no Kobudo", edited by Yokose Tomoyuki. 2000, Nippon Budokan. Japanese language book covering techniques and histories of 30 ryu-ha, including Hozoin-ryu Takada-ha sojutsu, Saburi-ryu sojutsu, Owari kan-ryu sojutsu, Tendo-ryu naginatajutsu, Jikishinkage-ryu naginatajutsu, and Chikubushima-ryu bojutsu. Even if you don't read Japanese there are quite a few photos.
"Kukishin Ryu Bujutsu", by Kiba Koshiro. 2001, Buyu Shoseki Shuppan. English translation of "Kukishin-ryu Bojutsu Sosho: Dai Nippon Goshinjutsu", originally published in 1937. This is volume 1, which centers on Kukishin-ryu bojutsu. Technical manual on rokushakubo and hanbo w/ brief sections on art history, etiquette, etc.
**
Worthwhile videos/DVDs include:
"Tendo-ryu naginatajutsu". Nippon Budokan "Nihon no Kobudo" documentary series. VHS and DVD available. Pricey but worth it.
"Jikishinkage-ryu naginatajutsu". Nippon Budokan "Nihon no Kobudo" documentary series. VHS and DVD available. Pricey but worth it.
"Higo ko-ryu naginatajutsu". Nippon Budokan "Nihon no Kobudo" documentary series. VHS and DVD available. Pricey but worth it.
"Yoshin-ryu naginatajutsu". Nippon Budokan "Nihon no Kobudo" documentary series. VHS and DVD available. Pricey but worth it.
"Toda-ha buko-ryu naginatajutsu". Nippon Budokan "Nihon no Kobudo" documentary series. VHS and DVD available. Pricey but worth it.
"Saburi-ryu sojutsu". Nippon Budokan "Nihon no Kobudo" documentary series. VHS and DVD available. Pricey but worth it.
"Hozoin-ryu Takada-ha sojutsu". Nippon Budokan "Nihon no Kobudo" documentary series. VHS and DVD available. Pricey but worth it.
"Owari kan-ryu sojutsu". Nippon Budokan "Nihon no Kobudo" documentary series. VHS and DVD available. Pricey but worth it.
"Chikubushima-ryu bojutsu". Nippon Budokan "Nihon no Kobudo" documentary series. VHS and DVD available. Pricey but worth it.
"Muhen-ryu bojutsu". Nippon Budokan "Nihon no Kobudo" documentary series. VHS and DVD available. Pricey but worth it.
"Naginata - A Link to the Past", featuring Helen Nakano Sensei. 1995, Southern California Naginata Federation. Focuses on Atarashii Naginata; including the Zen Nichi Kata, as well as a brief historical overview and a sampling of Tendo-ryu kata. Currently available through the SCNF (http://www.scnf.org/video.html).
"Naginata - Ancient Form, Modern Motion", featuring Helen Nakano Sensei. 1993, United States Naginata Federation. Currently available in DVD though the USNF website (http://www.naginata.org/usnf/usnf.html), focusing on Atrashii Naginata.
"Zen Nihon Naginata Kata", All Japan Naginata Fedration. Japanese language video tape of the standardized naginata vs. naginata kata found in Atarashii Naginata. A good supplement to the Zen Nihon Naginata no Kata book. Intended as a supplement for senior students of the art.
**
Please enjoy yourselves, and help contribute to a considerate, informational atmosphere!
Yoroshiku Onegaishimasu,
http://www.tsuki-kage.com/images/hshot.jpg
This "Bo, Naginata and Yari (and all related weapon arts)" section of e-budo is an academic-style discussion and archive forum, focusing on preferably koryu (classical) Japanese ryu-ha and Atarashii Naginata.
SUBJECT CRITERIA
In order to encourage discussion, styles and traditions that are gendai {post-Meiji} and/or not recognized formally as koryu, will be accepted as topics for discussion, but please limit discussions of non-classical arts and consider posting extensive posts of this nature to other forums. Also, we already have a jodo/jojutsu forum here at e-budo, so please use this jojutsu forum for jo related subjects. Be advised I WILL DISCOURAGE discussions of subjects considered internal elements of any extant ryu-ha, and will enforce requests from members of such ryu-ha to edit information they consider to be sensitive.
POSTING GUIDELINES
In addition to the four basic e-budo rules for participation, I would offer a few more points to consider before contributing:
1) If you are new to this forum, please have a look around first and get a feel for the atmosphere and manner before posting. Each forum has it's own feel and characteristic.
Additionally, the information you're looking for may already be posted. There is a search function (http://204.95.207.136/vbulletin/search.php?s=) available from the forum index page that will help you find what you are looking for. Similar threads in this forum are periodically combined (merged) and thread titles edited to enhance such search results.
2) Those that are new to martial arts or polearms might consider listening more than posting - or better yet, thinking up good questions to encourage discussion among those that may have more experience and knowledge in the given subject. Everyone has the right to an opinion, but unless you are prepared to offer a source for your opinion, or back it up with experience and/or credentials, please consider keeping unsubstantiated and unsupported opinions private.
3) Those that offer responses to questions should likewise be prepared to back up their facts and opinions with sources, experience and/or credentials for others to take into consideration. Please avoid posting assumptions or conclusions based off of hearsay or poorly researched material, as this only adds to the massive amount of misinformation found on the internet.
4) Please consider your words and temper your emotions (tone) before posting. Flames and inappropriate posts will not be tolerated. Inappropriate posts and threads will be nuked, edited, pruned or moved as deemed necessary to facilitate fluid navigation and timely research throughout this informational resource.
LOOKING FOR A DOJO?
There is a database in a subforum called the United States Naginata Federation (http://www.e-budo.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=130"[/url]"Bo, Naginata and Yari Dojo Finder"[/url] to assist those looking for a dojo in their area. This forum is a sub-forum inside the main Polearms forum you are in now, and is located towards the top of the main page. Please look there for existing leads and post any questions about dojo locations there. It would also be a good idea to search the main Polearms forum and the net in general for feedback on a training opportunity or instructor before joining a dojo - but please do not use the dojo finder forum for long debates!
YOUR MODERATOR
Though I specialize in Japanese swordsmanship and unarmed Japanese arts, I have been training in naginata for approximately 10 years at the time of this posting. I also trained in Okinawan Bojutsu (Inoue Motokatsu line) for a number of years, though I discontinued it a couple of years ago. While I'll surely post from time to time on subjects of interest, understand that the position of moderator is primarily that of administrative duties, concerned mostly with managing tempers, supervising postings, encouraging discussions and providing a productive atmosphere for others to participate in and organize/document valuable information. Those qualified to contribute to a subject are encouraged to post, however, if someone with more experience or knowledge than myself does not offer a response to a new thread, then I probably will.
Be advised that I will moderate threads as objectively and fairly as possible, regardless of any affiliations, seniority issues or friendships that may be at stake between myself and others by doing so.
Also, there will not be any flame wars here. Remember that you are a guest on this site, so if you can't communicate reasonably, politely and rationally, then please take a minute to calm down, have someone else write the post for you, or just don't contribute.
The budo world is a small world, and theres no reason why we can't have productive conversations and get along. Please respect each persons right to have a different position or opinion than your own.
Anyway, end of sermon. I think those of you who have been on the net for a while will understand why I feel it is necessary to set this groundwork to ensure mature, productive interactions.
RESOURCES
Following are some credible, useful links for those new to Polearms and Polearm arts:
[url="http://www.naginata.org)
Southern California Naginata Federation (http://www.scnf.org)
All Japan Naginata Federation {Japanese} (http://naginata.jp)
All Japan Naginata Federation {English} (http://naginata.jp/eng/eng1.html)
East Coast Naginata Federation (http://www.ecnf.org/ecnf/ecnf.htm)
Northern California Naginata Federation (http://www.naginata.org/ncnf/ncnf.html)
Rocky Mountain Naginata Federation (no web page)
Australian Naginata Federation (http://home.vicnet.net.au/~austnf)
Fédération de Naginata {France} (http://www.fnag.org)
Associação de Naguinata do Brasil {Brazil} (http://www.naguinata.com.br)
All New Zealand Naginata Federation (no web page)
Fédération Belge De Naginata {Belgium} (http://users.compaqnet.be/BelgiumNaginata)
Nederlandse Naginata Renmei {The Netherlands} (http://www.naginata.nl)
Swedish Budo Federation (http://www.budo.se/kendo)
Canadian Naginata Federation (http://www.naginata.ca)
Naginata in Great Britain (http://members.aol.com/uknaginata/index.htm)
Tendo-ryu Naginatajutsu {English} (http://www.naginata.org/shingetsukai/shingetsukai.html)
Jikishinkage-ryu Naginatajutsu {English} (http://www.hawaiinaginata.org/index.html)
Kendo World Magazine (http://www.kendo-world.com). Though the magazine focuses primarily on kendo, there is a section on naginata that often contains valuable historical information on the art and ryu-ha. Great magazine.
Kendo World Discussion Forums / Naginata Forum (http://www.kendo-world.com/forum/). They've had a naginata forum and kobudo forum up for some time, and have some solid contributors. Worth taking a look through.
**
Also, those interested in Polearms please consider picking up and reading (currently in print):
"Naginata - The Definitive Guide", by Alexander Bennett. 2005, Kendo World Publications, Ltd. See Kendo World (http://www.kendo-world.com) website. A great starter that covers primarily Atarashii Naginata, but also has valuable overviews of naginata history, Tendo-ryu, and Jikishinkage-ryu.
"Old School - Essays on Japanese Martial Traditions", by Ellis Amdur. 2002, Edgework (http://www.ellisamdur.com/buy.html). If you are interested in classical naginata arts, be sure to read everything that Ellis has written on the subject. His essays comprise a large amount of reliable English language information on the arts, which are compiled in this book. Contains history and information on the naginata of Tendo-ryu, Jikishinkage-ryu, Toda-ha buko-ryu, Higo ko-ryu, Tenshin shoden katori shinto-ryu, Maniwa nen-ryu.
"Koryu Bujutsu - Classical Warrior Traditions of Japan", edited by Diane Skoss. 1997, Koryu Books (http://www.koryubooks.com/store/martialartsbooks.html). A great series of books. This one includes information on Owari kan-ryu sojutsu, Tendo-ryu naginatajutsu, and an interview with Sawada Hanae of Tendo-ryu.
"Sword and Spirit - Classical Warrior Traditions of Japan", edited by Diane Skoss. 1999, Koryu Books (http://www.koryubooks.com/store/martialartsbooks.html). A great series of books. This one includes information on Toda-ha buko-ryu naginatajutsu, Yoshin-ryu naginatajutsu, and Hozoin-ryu Takada-ha sojutsu.
"Keiko Shokon - Classical Warrior Traditions of Japan", edited by Diane Skoss. 2002, Koryu Books (http://www.koryubooks.com/store/martialartsbooks.html). A great series of books. This one includes and interview with Nitta Suzuyo, headmaster of Toda-ha buko-ryu naginatajutsu.
"Japanese Spears - Polearms and Their Use in Old Japan", by Roald and Patricia Knutsen. 2004, Global Oriental. An updated version of the out-of-print book they wrote in 1965, "Japanese Polearms". A valuable work in English on Japanese polearms, including historical illustrations and photos of polearms. Though I find this book to be a valuable resource, in view of the lack of English language publications on Japanese polearms, be advised that both the original and the updated version of this book are not without their share of errors.
"150 Japanese Polearm Terms", by W.M. Hawley. 1997, W.M. Hawley Publications. A short but useful resource with weapon nomenclature and their associated kanji. Nice. The publications by Hawley are largely overlooked by budo-ka - take some time to look through their site: W.M. Hawley (http://www.wmhawley.com)
"Sports V Course - Naginata", translated by Alexander Bennett. 1999, International Naginata Federation. An English translation of the Japanese edition published by the All Japan Naginata Federation (Atarashii Naginata). Intended as a supplement for students of the art.
"Illustrated Naginata". 1990, All Japan Naginata Federation. An English translation of the Japanese edition originally published by the All Japan Naginata Federation in 1981 (Atarashii Naginata). Currently available through the SCNF (http://www.scnf.org/video.html) and other sources. Intended as a supplement for beginning students of the art.
"Zen Nihon Naginata no Kata". 2005, All Japan Naginata Federation. Japanese language book focusing on the Zen Nihon Naginata Kata, a standardized set of naginata vs. naginata kata based on koryu techniques, and typically taught at sandan level and up. Intended as a supplement for senior students of the art.
"Nihon no Kobudo", edited by Yokose Tomoyuki. 2000, Nippon Budokan. Japanese language book covering techniques and histories of 30 ryu-ha, including Hozoin-ryu Takada-ha sojutsu, Saburi-ryu sojutsu, Owari kan-ryu sojutsu, Tendo-ryu naginatajutsu, Jikishinkage-ryu naginatajutsu, and Chikubushima-ryu bojutsu. Even if you don't read Japanese there are quite a few photos.
"Kukishin Ryu Bujutsu", by Kiba Koshiro. 2001, Buyu Shoseki Shuppan. English translation of "Kukishin-ryu Bojutsu Sosho: Dai Nippon Goshinjutsu", originally published in 1937. This is volume 1, which centers on Kukishin-ryu bojutsu. Technical manual on rokushakubo and hanbo w/ brief sections on art history, etiquette, etc.
**
Worthwhile videos/DVDs include:
"Tendo-ryu naginatajutsu". Nippon Budokan "Nihon no Kobudo" documentary series. VHS and DVD available. Pricey but worth it.
"Jikishinkage-ryu naginatajutsu". Nippon Budokan "Nihon no Kobudo" documentary series. VHS and DVD available. Pricey but worth it.
"Higo ko-ryu naginatajutsu". Nippon Budokan "Nihon no Kobudo" documentary series. VHS and DVD available. Pricey but worth it.
"Yoshin-ryu naginatajutsu". Nippon Budokan "Nihon no Kobudo" documentary series. VHS and DVD available. Pricey but worth it.
"Toda-ha buko-ryu naginatajutsu". Nippon Budokan "Nihon no Kobudo" documentary series. VHS and DVD available. Pricey but worth it.
"Saburi-ryu sojutsu". Nippon Budokan "Nihon no Kobudo" documentary series. VHS and DVD available. Pricey but worth it.
"Hozoin-ryu Takada-ha sojutsu". Nippon Budokan "Nihon no Kobudo" documentary series. VHS and DVD available. Pricey but worth it.
"Owari kan-ryu sojutsu". Nippon Budokan "Nihon no Kobudo" documentary series. VHS and DVD available. Pricey but worth it.
"Chikubushima-ryu bojutsu". Nippon Budokan "Nihon no Kobudo" documentary series. VHS and DVD available. Pricey but worth it.
"Muhen-ryu bojutsu". Nippon Budokan "Nihon no Kobudo" documentary series. VHS and DVD available. Pricey but worth it.
"Naginata - A Link to the Past", featuring Helen Nakano Sensei. 1995, Southern California Naginata Federation. Focuses on Atarashii Naginata; including the Zen Nichi Kata, as well as a brief historical overview and a sampling of Tendo-ryu kata. Currently available through the SCNF (http://www.scnf.org/video.html).
"Naginata - Ancient Form, Modern Motion", featuring Helen Nakano Sensei. 1993, United States Naginata Federation. Currently available in DVD though the USNF website (http://www.naginata.org/usnf/usnf.html), focusing on Atrashii Naginata.
"Zen Nihon Naginata Kata", All Japan Naginata Fedration. Japanese language video tape of the standardized naginata vs. naginata kata found in Atarashii Naginata. A good supplement to the Zen Nihon Naginata no Kata book. Intended as a supplement for senior students of the art.
**
Please enjoy yourselves, and help contribute to a considerate, informational atmosphere!
Yoroshiku Onegaishimasu,
http://www.tsuki-kage.com/images/hshot.jpg