Yanagi-ryu Aiki Bugei / Don Angier

Guys,

The recent seminar with Don Angier, hosted by Bugei Trading Co. at the "Dojo of the Four Winds" in San Diego was as great as expected. Getting repeatedly thrown so effortlessly is always a charge. And Don Angier just seems to get better and better. This makes it kinda hard for those of us trying to catch up when he's still improving at such an alarming rate. (Over 65 and still improving, what an amazing feat of mental and physical ability.)

Also great was finally meeting Nathan Scott & Tony Alvarez. I enjoyed seeing several old friends like Panchita Hawley, Dave Slocumb, & Ted Tenold.

BTW. The included all you can eat sushi dinner Saturday night was wonderful and such a bargain on top of everything else.

James, You done good !


Toby Threadgill

[Mollberg]

it was one of the best seminars i have ever been to i lerned alot,that was some darn good sushi!

[Nathan Scott]

Hi guys -

That was a good time. It was great to meet everybody.

I was especially fond of the 20 or 30 times Angier Soke plopped Toby-san on his butt after repeated attacks. Toby could be heard muttering "I feel so stupid when he does that!" throughout the demonstration.

Hee hee hee http://216.10.1.92/ubb/biggrin.gif

That was good stuff, we should find an excuse to do something like this more often. It was a good group of people.

I had some random bits and pieces of theory that Angier Soke happened to expain and had already put together into a nice neat package for us.

Angier Soke discussed these principles openly including a Q&A for each topic, for which I for one am grateful.

The seminar was a good time and I was pleasantly surprised (relieved, to be honest) by the knowledge and skill of Angier Soke.

Thanks for the invite!


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Nathan Scott
Shinkendo & Aiki Buken Honbu dojo (http://www.shinkendo.com)
Tsuki Kage dojo (http://www.tsuki-kage.com)
Japanese Sword Arts Discussion Forum (http://www.swordforum.com/jsa)

[This message has been edited by Nathan Scott (edited 06-14-2000).]

[Mark Jakabcsin]

"it was one of the best seminars i have ever been to i lerned alot,that was some darn good sushi!"

Yeah, but did the lovely Kathyrn do her dangerous double butter knife kata?

mark

Mark,

LOLOLOL snort! No, my lovely wife did not consume quite the required amount of liquid encouragement to find her footing so she could demonstrate the infamous "American Kenjutsu Assoc's" double butter knife kata.

Good thing too. You do remember that the last time she attempted this most difficult of forms one of the butter knives came flying out of her hands at St Pete's Dancing Marlin.

Frightful... absolutely frightful

Tobs

[Henry Walker]

The seminar was great! It was very informative. I enjoyed meeting Neil and although we werent entirely on our game, there was definitely a lot of "material" there that was untouched. See Tobs, I can be diplomatic. By the way, I think everyone needs to see the 'Amazing Katherine and her Butterknives of Death' to fully appreciate the reference!

[Mark Jakabcsin]

"By the way, I think everyone needs to see the 'Amazing Katherine and her Butterknives of Death' to fully appreciate the reference!"

Just keep your heads up and hands ready to parry OR ELSE you just might become another statistic in the world of dinner table accidents. LOL

mark

[Henry Walker]

Especially when she throws in the Daniel-san one legged kick! You gotta luv her! Cuz if you dont, she'll kick your backside black and blue. Or in my case white and fuscia!

[Neil Yamamoto]

Hey Henry! Nice to see you back on the forums. I spoke with the other "Walker" from Portland the other day and he said nice things about you. No accounting for taste...:)

It was nice to meet you as well, we have to sit down sometime and see who really has the sickest sense of humor. I am sure the Dallas dojo delinquents(John, Toby) will help to fuel the fire when we do.

See ya!



[Edited by Neil Yamamoto on 06-22-2000 at 07:02 PM]

[Henry Walker]

It's a shame that "Evil Steve" was not there. He is a notorious instigator! You'll love him!!! By the way, the taste reference, was that your talking to Doug or Doug being nice about me?

[Neil Yamamoto]

Since I have not actually met Doug yet, I will be nice and say Doug being nice about you. Gotta give you a bad time so you can get me back!

[BC]

The following website states that Masayoshi "James" Mitose, one of the father's of Ed Parker's American Kenpo, was a member of the prominent Yoshida family. Does anyone know if this is the same family as Kotaro Yoshida, and if so, is there a possible relationship between the Yanagi-ryu Aiki Jiu Jitsu art and the Kosho ryu art the website claims was passed down for generations through the Yoshida family?

http://www.tracyskarate.com/History/Mitose/Mitose.htm

I'm not trying to make any claims for any kind of link. This is just for curiosity's sake, so no flames please.

-BC

[kenkyusha]

Umm,

Weh-ell, them Tracys are quite the historians! Not sure what to make of their insistance on demonizing Mitose on the one hand, while simultaneously attempting to play-up any possible connections 'twixt him and anything legitimate. If one is to believe the internet, Mitose was a perfected master, descendent of bushi, ninja-exponent and murderer (as well as mind-control specialist) who was heir to an 1100 year old art as practiced by the sohei, but looked like Goju... All of these sites make my brain hurt.

Be well,
Jigme

BC,

Interesting question but I don't think so. Kempo and Yanagi ryu look nothing alike. Also remember that Yoshida is an extremely common name in Japan.

Actually Ed Parker and Don Angier were good friends. If you go over to Aikido Journals bulletin board there is a thread started by one of Ed Parkers old students on the recent AJ article about Don Angier. He mentions Ed Parkers high opinion of Don and the Yanagi ryu demos that Don used to perform at the various tournaments around LA in the 1960's & 70"s.

Tobs

[BC]

Thanks Toby. Yeah, I knew that Yoshida is a common name, so I figured it was a stretch, but I was curious anyway. I figured that you might be the best person to ask about that, in addition to Mr. Pranin. I saw that thread at Aikido Journal, and that's kind of what sparked my interest. SOme great stories there. I used to study Parker Kenpo years ago, and remembered that Mitose had supposedly come from a prominent family in Japan. When I did a little research I came across that piece by the Tracys, and thought I'd ask around.

[Roger Conant]

I just saw a video of some of Don Angier's weapons work. I am wondering if he has some backgound in kembu?

[Richard Elias]

Mr. Conant,

Yes, Angier sensei did study kenbu for few years. But that was guite some time after learning Yanagi ryu. I have seen film of him long before he studied kenbu, and his technique is about the same. Though I think I remember him saying it did help to improve his posture.

[KTT]

Dear Mr. Conant and Mr. Elias,

What is Kenbu?

Thank you very much.

Sincerely,

Kevin T. Tanemura

[Richard Elias]

Kenbu is sword dance. It is "basically" a form of storytelling where those acting out the story are dressed in tradtional Japanese clothing and carying swords and a fan. They typically act out tales of famous warriors and events of ancient Japan. In some of the stories more than one actor or even a group of actors may perform. Some stories, such as that of the Kuroda Bushi the actor will use a spear. There are various schools of kenbu throughout Japan. It was originally a type of story telling by warriors "around the campfire" telling of thier exploits. Later, during more peacful times, it became more en vogue as a divertion for samurai since they no longer had real battles to fight.

My teacher was lucky enough to have had the oportunity to study with a rather well known kenbu sensei from Osaka. At the time, before coming to the US, he was ranked in the top two in kenbu compititions in Japan. He had actually studied jujutsu, kenjutsu, naginata and yari, in order to give his performance of kenbu greater realism.

[Joseph Svinth]

Of some potential interest to Mr. Angier, given his background, is the following from the pre-WWII Pacific Northwest.

On the evenings of July 3 and 4, 1928, Seattle’s Japanese Association sponsored a community talent show. The stage was built for the occasion on the vacant lot at the corner of Sixth and Main. According to the Japanese-American Courier, the act that drew the most applause "was Mr. Tanaka’s Kenbu dance with swords, which was presented in Seattle for the first time this year." Meanwhile the act that proved least popular, at least with the Nisei, was the Obon dancing afterward.

On November 26 and 27, 1928, a touring dramatic company from Tokyo presented the three-act "Ishimatsu," the one-act "Yasuna," and the two-act "Yozo Kida" at Portland’s Heilig Theater. The first play told the story of a samurai’s bloody revenge on false friends. The second was a dance fantasy, and the third told the story of royalists, reformers, and a geisha at the end of the Tokugawa era (e.g., the mid-nineteenth century). "During the most exciting moments of the plays," wrote theater critic Stanley Orne in the Morning Oregonian, "Swords flash and men jump about in grotesque hops. They use both hands to aim their swords, then fight with one hand. Their feet are in constant movement, inching nearer or sidling away. In 'Yozo Kida' one of the swordsmen Douglas Fairbankses from a balcony to the floor."

"Of these swordsmen, Mitsuru Toyama [no relation to the Japanese ultranationalist of the same name] is the most skillful. He is the star of the company. At no time does he seem to be satisfied with fewer than five or six opponents. He is scarcely a fighter at all unless he has four antagonists."

On December 11 and 12, 1928, the same troupe presented the same plays at Seattle’s Metropolitan Theater. "The two Oriental sword plays presented by these artists," Everhardt Armstrong wrote in the Post-Intelligencer afterwards, "proved to be rich in vivid pantomime and delicate pictorial quality -- and by the aid of the program notes, one was enabled to follow easily the dramatic motivation and development of each episode." So, although not truly gekken or kendo, this Japanese use of theatrical swordsmanship was no different (and just as crowd-pleasing) as the use of rapier fencing by Elizabethan playwrights and Hollywood screenwriters -- and equally likely to inspire emulation.

[Richard Elias]

Here is a link to a Japanese sight on kenbu. Though I can't read any of it, I believe the photos are from a competition / performance in '98. Following the links at the top will take you to more pics. Very dramatic stuff.

http://www.puppen.co.jp/shigin-kenbu/shigin-kenbu.htm


Mr. Svinth,

Thanks very much, I will pass this on to him. He actually wrote an article on kenbu for a MA magazine back in '76. I have done some reasearching myself, (just 'acause I thinks the stuff is neat) but haven't found much info in english, and I don't read Japanese. I understand it's still even apart of a very few traditional bujutsu systems and has become popular in Australian MA circles.

You being the great researcher :smilejapa, if you have any more info on kenbu you would be willing to pass on to me it would be greatly appreciated.

Also, I understand you may be joining us along with Yamamoto Sensei for the seminar in May. I look forward to meeting you.

[Joseph Svinth]

A book you might check for theatrical applications of MA is Martin Banham, ed., "Cambridge Guide to World Theatre." Don't just read the Japanese sections, either, as there are all kinds of interesting leads worldwide.

FWIW, here's a link to a Japanese iaido club's English-language kenbu page: http://www.txc.net.au/~hokushin/kenbushi.htm . Perhaps a letter might be in order?

[JohnRay]

Hi folks,
I have a story about my first encounter with kenbu that may be of some interest on this thread..... I had just begun entering iaido competion in the mid-80's and had the fortune/misfortune to be ranked alongside an attractive lady several years my junior. She was always dressed in the finest kimono in the event, always a subtle color never gaudy, but always the finest quality and perfect fit. The poise and elegance in her waza were her strong points. She didn't have my power or my (karate influenced) aggressiveness. I placed second to her first for years.. each and every time I competed with her. A lady and a gaijin, dominating one rank..... our rivalry became the talk of the association. We were cordial to each other, but I didn't know too much about her until, right before I was to return to the States. At the "halftime" enbu of my last competition, it was announced that there would be a demonstration of "kenbu" by the designated Soke, daughter of the current Soke, of an old, well-known school of sword dance. Yep, you guessed it, my old friend came out onto the floor and performed a breathtaking combination of whirls and jumps....very acrobatic, but as usual, very poised and elegant. I think she caught my dumstruck look at her conclusion and actually winked at me. Soooo.... if she is any indication of what training in kenbu can produce, Angier-sensei was wise to make use of it.
John Ray
Denton, Texas

[M.C. Busman]

Interesting link--check out the fella bottom row, middle!

http://www.budget.net/~dnolan/p12.html


:)M.C. Busman:)

[Richard Elias]

It was taken around 1966, in the full photo he's being held by two opponents and is about to perform a technique. He used to occasionally write articles for various magazines, including Black Belt.

[MarkF]

Don also had opened a "jujitsu dojo" in Sherman Oaks, a suburb of Los Angeles, in 1964, I believe, quite literally "down the street" from my first judo dojo. Didn't last, though.


Mark

[Richard Elias]

The dojo in Sherman Oaks was only open for about a year. He opened that one right after closing a dojo he'd had in LA on 7th St. near MacArthur park since 1955. He had also been running another dojo in Lynwood since 1962. After the Sherman Oaks dojo closed he taught only at Lynwood. That dojo closed in 1987, when he retired from public teaching.

[Yanagi boy]

[post deleted by request of the Author, Bryant Koh. NS]

[glad2bhere]

Dear Bryant:

I got the impression that Sensei Angier would not be taking anymore students. I think this was in a post on the AIKIDO JOURNAL Net follwoing an announcement by some of his long-time students that they would be moving out on their own. The post also seem to mention that Sensei Angier would be holding the leadership of his particular art and had no plans in the foreseeable future to designate an heir. Having things changed radically in the last few months or did I simply misread the intent of the post? Comments?

Best Wishes,

Bruce

[MarkF]

Hi, Bruce,
I recall reading several posts by at least one of the three here that they would be leaving, and the post[s] on AJ.

I find it a bit strange that Don Angier would advertise for students in this way, on a public forum. I also know that he almost always has a waiting list for prospective students so this is interesting, to say the least.


Mark

[glad2bhere]

Dear Mark:

"....I find it a bit strange that Don Angier would advertise for students in this way, on a public forum....."

Maybe what you wrote is a little closer to the mark (no pun intended). I have never met the man or attended any of his training, however, I always got the impression that he was somewhat "reclusive" in his approach to the MA community. Folks who have trained with him seemed to reflect this to a greater or lesser degree as well and with a pretty heavy dose of traditionalism as well. At any rate, I NEVER got the impression that someone of his standing would have to announce training vacancies. Curious, ne?

Best Wishes,

Bruce

[Nathan Scott]

Mr. Koh,

I've merged your post with the existing thread on this subject (which is apparently one of the oldest in this forum).

BTW, last I heard there was a 2 year waiting list to get into Angier Sensei's dojo. I reckon that was a few years ago now. I heard that spelling his name correctly when posting to the internet is actually the first requirement for membership. ;)

Regards,

[Yanagi boy]

I am a current student of Soke Angers, and he asked me to post this message on this site.

He wrote the message himself and I copied word for word, exactly as he wanted it read.

I am not sure as to the motive of Soke Angers, I am just posting the message.

[Ron Tisdale]

Yeah, but you're still spelling his name wrong...look at the example in the title of the thread...

Ron (I've been pronouncing it wrong for years now) Tisdale :)

[MarkF]

Sorry, Yanagi boy,
As a student of that length of time, surely it would be spelled correctly in your profile.

I don't know what the requirements are, but I agree concerning the spelling, at the very least.

I think this thread has outlived its usefulness. If that was the purpose, to post it, then lets close the thread, it has been done.


Mark

[Yanagi boy]

Spelling was never my strong poing.

Its a very poor imagination that can only spell a word one way.

My apologies to everyone and to Soke.

[Henry Walker]

Bryant,

I know that this is an odd questions, but, what do you do for a living?

[Henry Walker]

Bryant,

Disregard the question about your occupation. I couldnt remember your last name so I called Angier Sensei. Just for everyone's edification, this is the real deal. So, in the immortal words of Forest Gump, "That's all I got to say about that."

[John Lindsey]

I came across an article by David Steele called "Tanto Jutsu" in the December 1981 issue of Warriors Magazine. Don was featured in the photos:

[YuSanHapki]

This sort of thing always makes me smile.
Thank you for post it!

[jaxonbrown]

holey smokes! a pinstripe hakama. they do exist!

[Mike B. Johnson]

Mr Brown,

Striped hakama's were actually more common with the Japanese warrior class than solid colored ones. The prevalence of solid colored hakama's is actually a fairly modern phenom. Patterned fabrics were more common with textile makers because they hid weaving and dying imperfections.

Samurai, especially of the Edo period were quite flashy dressers! Check out woodblock prints of samurai by artist's like Kuniyoshi.

BJ

[Don Angier]

To Whom It May Concern:

As of January 1st, 2005, Mr. Jeremy Breazeale is appointed to the position of Soke-dai of the Koryu martial art Yoshida Ha Shidare Yanagi ryu Aiki Bugei.

He is my representative in any and or all matters as I may assign him. All correspondence to me or pertaining to the Yoshida family martial arts, should be addressed to him either at the dojo or on-line. This includes information regarding upcoming seminars, requests for and details for hosting seminars, applying to train at the dojo, etc.

I still remain Soke of the art and will continue to teach all classes and seminars. In the event that I retire as Soke of Yoshida Ha Shidare Yanagi ryu Aiki Bugei by choice or am unable to continue in the capacity of Soke due to physical or mental incapacitation or death, Mr. Breazeale will succeed me as Soke, or steward, of the Yoshida family martial traditions with full authority and responsibilities of the position and will assume the name “Yoshida Kentaro” as dictated by tradition. Said name is to be used for administrative purposes.

Mr. Breazeale's appointment was performed and witnessed in the presence of an attorney licensed to practice in the State of California and Notarized by a Notary Public licensed to practice in Los Angeles County and the State of California and duly represented therein.

Donald Joseph Angier; Soke
Yoshida ha Shidare Yanagi ryu Aiki Bugei

[glad2bhere]

Dear Sir:

Thank you for setting a clear, unambiguous and outstanding example of the manner in which such things need be conducted to promote the peaceful and efficient transfer of responsiblity. My most sincere hopes and prayers for the continued well-being of you, your successor and the art you have sheparded.

Best Wishes,

Bruce

[O'Neill]

If more arts would conduct themselves in this manner, we could avoid much of the bickering and bull when a soke retires or passes on! Good luck in the future.

[kimiwane]

Donald Joseph Angier; Soke
Yoshida ha Shidare Yanagi ryu Aiki Bugei

Didn't you write a piece in the front of Richard Kim's "The Classical Man"?

Please forgive my ignorance, but does your ryu derive from Yoshida Kotaro?

And was Richard Kim your teacher in this ryu at any point?

I had heard that he had aikijujutsu menkyo kaiden. Could you please tell us how your line relates to that?

Richard Kim was a great light in the world of martial arts.

Thanks.

[John Connolly]

David, read this:

http://ejmas.com/jcs/jcsart_angier_0501.htm

[Mike Haftel]

Hello, I am new to the site. I came across it while searching for information about various Aiki arts such as Daito-Ryu and Yanagi-Ryu. I have been training in Aikido for the past 4 years as well as an art called Genri-Ryu, pretty much every day, for the past 3; I have attended numerous seminars in Daito-Ryu and its derivitives (among many other arts) and I have a growing, serious interest to train in one of the legitimate Aiki Koryu.

Does anybody have contact information for Jeremy Breazeale or Don Angier so that I may write them? I saw the post about Jeremy Breazeale being appointed Dai-Soke of Yanagi-Ryu and I have no idea how to go about contacting him about the art as was stated in Don Angier's letter. I feel that I must also state that I have no interest to get involved with any type of political drama or other issues that seem to permiate the various schools of martial arts these days. I am strictly about the learning experience.

Thank you,

Mike Haftel

[Mateo]

Try http://www.swordforumbugei.com/phpBB2/

This is where students Angier and ex-students of Angier generally 'hang out'.

[Mike Haftel]

Thank you.

[Richard Elias]

Mike, I sent you a PM.

[Mike Haftel]

Thanks, replied.

[Hurtzdontit]

Hi all ebudo members,
I hope I'm not starting a verbal fire here but I came accross another caucasian soke and remembered an article done by him and good old James "I'm legit" Loreiga in the infamous magazine titled Ninja.
Does anyone know what this guys story is, is he another Dux etc, a friend of mine has one of his videos and he seems to move O.K.
Then again Ashida Kim rips telephone books in half but he's still a fraud.
Any experiences anyone.
Thanks
Andrew Timms.

[Richard Elias]

Try using the search option.

There's lots of stuff on here in the Aikijujutsu forum.
You can also check out Aikido Journal's forums, they have one dedicated to him and Yanagi ryu.

[Hurtzdontit]

Thanks for the reply Richard, I checked out his bio on that aiki journal and to be honest he comes accross as being a little suspect with comments like, "Yoshida sensei was an illegal alien and did not want his picture being taken" and how there was no one but him training with Yoshida.
Are there any photos of Yoshida and Don training together, did he give densho etc to Don? Alot of the other forums seemed to say how good he is but that does not mean a thing to me with out proof of the claims he makes.
Thanks
Andrew Timms

[ROBERT STAPLES]

From Bugei.com (http://www.bugei.com/angier.html)

Don Angier’s martial arts background is so unusual as to be totally unbelievable. Angier learned as a teenager from Kenji Yoshida, the son of Kotaro Yoshida, the latter a top student of Sokaku Takeda and friend of Morihei Ueshiba. Kenji taught the eager young Angier in a fashion reminiscent of scenes from the highly successful movie, the Karate Kid. In this article, Angier, one of Aiki Jujutsu’s finest teachers, recounts his fascinating martial arts odyssey!

And at the bottom of the page

DON ANGIER is the Soke (inheritor) of Yanagi Ryu Aiki Ju Jitsu of the Yoshida family of Kyushu by direct succession from Kenji Yoshida, son of Kotaro Yoshida. Yanagi Ryu Aiki Bugei is a complete samurai art encompassing all the skills that were necessary for the Yoshida clan in the execution of their duties as samurai. Kotaro Yoshida was a friend and student of Sokaku Takeda. Their relationship began about 1914 and continued until Takeda‚s death. Kotaro introduced Morihei Ueshiba, the founder of aikido, to Sokaku and Ueshiba studied Daito-ryu aikijujutsu for many years. Angier has been practicing and mastering the Yoshida arts for 50 years and his knowledge of Aiki Jiu Jutsu and related samurai arts is unparalleled in the Western world.

[Richard Elias]

Andrew,

Don, his story, his art, everything has been gone over before. All your questions have been asked and answered, and many more.

Search the forums and you’ll find the answers you seek, it's all there already.

[Hurtzdontit]

Thanks Richard,
Can you provide any links as there are so many that come up, preferably ones that have proof like photos, densho etc?
Thanks
Andrew Timms

[John Lovato]

Andrew,
I think what Richard is saying is do your own work, and draw your own conclussions. If you don't want to believe that is your own business.

[Richard Elias]

Andrew,

Some photos of Don, Kenji, and Kotaro can be seen on our website. (There’s a link in my profile) There are no densho and no photos of Don and Kenji together. If you read Don’s story, which can be found all over the net, he explains how Kenji came to the US and it is obvious no densho would have survived his trials. The original photos of Kenji that we have on the site are all in the possession of Don Angier, as well as some of the photos of Kotaro, many have been professionally examined and dated, and deemed authentic. He received them from Kenji and many are personal family photos, there are others also, but we haven’t put them on the site.

As for the rest of the information, do look it up please.

Not to seem rude, but if you really want the answers take the time to do the research before going on a crusade. I personally just don’t have the time to go through all this again for a single nay sayer that doesn’t want to take the time to do his homework. I/we have nothing to prove as it’s all been proven to the extent that it can be. You will not find the conflicting, misinformed, uneducated and juvenile defenses you find in other examples like Ashida Kim, Dux, Duncan and others of that ilk.

Basically it's all been hashed through several times over and he and the art are accepted by the vast majority of the MA community. If you do not accept the explanations and evidence, and supporting contributions by other noted martial artists, that’s on you. Like John said, take the time to do the reading and draw your own conclusions.

[ROBERT STAPLES]

Some photos of Don, Kenji, and Kotaro can be seen on our website. (There’s a link in my profile) .

Those are great, and the website-easy to use and very informative.
Thanks for the information

[aikironin]

Interestingly enough, Stanly Pranin has given note to the authenticity of Angier Sensei and his style, so lumping him in with Dux, Duncan and Kim is basically a slap in the face. A little searching can go a long way and prove what you needed proven, if your willing to take time to do this.

I think the fact that there is information out there is attributed to Angier and his students putting the information out so that you can make the decision for yourself if you want to say it is "legitamite" or not. My opinion, it is very legit, and most others agree.

[cxt]

In general

This question and the answers highlight the very real, in depth, level of difference between the Yanagi folks and people trying to pull a fast one.

1-The question has already been asked and hashed out--in depth, going back some years.

2-Requested proofs are easy to find, and clearly presented.
The Yanagi folks can easily provide all manner of vetted support for their art. And they can do so upon request--and have.

3-No-one got all "huffy" and started throwing around insults.

4-Claims made by the Yanagi folks are clear and stright-forward. They do not lay claim to things that they are not entitled to or can't support.


Chris Thomas

[Hurtzdontit]

Thanks for everyones help, just in regards toa few "do your research comments", I thought that these sites where actually used for avoiding such loooong searches for information.
Thanks all the same though, just wanted to check the validity of the style before I go check it out.
Hope I did not hurt anyones feelings.
Cheers
Andrew Timms

[gendzwil]

I thought that these sites where actually used for avoiding such loooong searches for information.
All the information is here on the site - not a long search at all. Just type "Angier" into the search button and you have a ton of info. It's fundamental netiquette - look at the FAQs, do a search, then ask your question if you don't have an answer or need clarification.

[Hurtzdontit]

It's fundamental netiquette - look at the FAQs, do a search, then ask your question if you don't have an answer or need clarification.

Thanks very much for the helpful advice on the way to conduct yourself at this forum, I was unaware of such etiquette. The main reason that I posted was that most of the threads seemed to go on about how great he is rather tham questioning his credentials, no need to bother with this thread anymore, I'll just fish through the archives.
Thanks everyone for your help.
Andrew Timms

[Arman]

Who's Don Angier?
:D

Arman Partamian

[Nathan Scott]

I've merged this question about Don Angier's art with an existing thread on the subject to enhance search results.

Regards,

[Ren Blade]

Dear Friends,

I am pleased to announce that we will have Don Angier soke of Yanagi Ryu Aiki Bugei here at Boston Samurai Arts on June 20th & 21th (Saturday & Sunday).

Don Angier is renowned for his skill and abilities in Aikijujutsu and Kenjutsu that come from Yanagi Ryu Aiki Bugei.

The focus of the seminar will be on Yanagi ryu mechanics and principles which will be taught through various martial techniques of the art. The training will be focused on getting participants to move with, to, and from their center. These principles can also be applied to any martial art.

The cost of the seminar is $180.00 per person for both days.

The location will be at Boston Samurai Arts inside the Krav Maga Boston school at:
141 Pleasant St.
Malden, MA 02148

The door will open at 7:30am and registration and payment will be taken care of in person.

Please wear hakama, obi, kimono/kendo top or a gi (aikido, bujinkan, karate, judo, tae kwon do, brazilian jiujitsu, etc.). If you can, please bring a bokken as well. Any and all martial arts backgrounds from very experienced to complete beginners are welcomed. Please inform anyone you know that would be interested in this seminar and forward this messege to them.

Here is a youtube link of an old video of Don Angier's demonstrations.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QvWiYcxTm2A

If there are any questions, please do not hesitate to contact me. Thank you.

Regards,
Walter Wong
Boston Samurai Arts
617-470-4468 renblade2000@yahoo.com

[Ren Blade]

Also, absolutely no video cameras, or video phones are allowed. Still photos are allowed but no flash pictures allowed during weapons techniques demonstration.

No student under the age of 14 will be accepted and those under the 18 years of age requires a written consent from parents or legal guardian. All participant must sign a release of responsibility form before allowed to participate in the seminar.

Regards,
Walter Wong