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    Default Chidori-ashi (sand plover step)

    I have a friend who's interested in Katori Shinto ryu. He's trying to find the correct translation of a specific technique; I got it all except the word "chidori" (he only had the Romaji). Isn't that like a cross-step?

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    Default One meaning = Plover, a bird

    Well, probably nothing to do with kenjutsu, but "chidori" is a Japanese bird. Maybe the kenjutsu stepping motion is similar to a chidori's?

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    One can often replicate chidori-ashi with the help of generous quantities of scotch.
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    Bonjour M. Diederich,

    I suspect that your friend is trying to decipher the meaning of the iaijutsu kata "Zen Go Chidori no Tachi" and "Yukiai Migi Chidori no Tachi" of the Katori Shinto Ryu. "Chidori" means, according to Kodansha's Japanese dictionary "plover", perhaps referring a way walking as suggested by Soulend and Guy.
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    Guy#2,
    perhaps referring a way walking as suggested by Soulend and Guy.
    Great! Now we have the "Drunken Plover" style!!

    Regards (and a bit of a laugh ),
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    Wink The real questions? ...

    But, I think the real question is did classical Plovers walk by swinging the same side or the opposite side wing before westerners came to Japan? (I just couldn't help myself!)

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    A lot of Japanese women walk like that anyway!

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    Well, as you all probably know, "chidori-ashi" used to be a common Japanese euphemism for 'very drunk', since they (the plover, not neccesarily the Japanese) walk so erratically along the seashore, avoiding getting their feet wet with the incoming surf.

    As such, it is interesting to me that the plover appears in the names of some kata.

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    Lightbulb Re: Chidori

    Originally posted by yamatodamashii
    >> Isn't that like a cross-step? <<


    chidori-ashi is used, at least in some arts, to mean "cross-step". the difficulty, of course, is finding out precisely what chidori means to practitioners of TSKSR. and names of kata in koryu arts are often nebulous-at-best references to the content of the techniques. best of luck to your friend with his translating.

    and as to Paul's pressing question of western influences, what kind of effect do you suppose the african plover might have had? i mean, especially since european plovers simply aren't large or strong enough to carry coconuts all the way to south-east asia so that mounted samurai could make appropriate horse hoof noises ...
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    Default Re: Re: Chidori

    Originally posted by Jeff Hamacher
    Originally posted by yamatodamashii
    >> Isn't that like a cross-step? <<


    [i]the difficulty, of course, is finding out precisely what chidori means to practitioners of TSKSR.
    Exactly so! Does anyone know any usernames? I think some have posted here before... I really do appreciate the input, but I've already got a Japanese dictionary. Unfortunately, "plover" is not a commonly used word here in land-locked Missouri!
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    Default Re: Re: Re: Chidori

    Originally posted by yamatodamashii

    Snip...
    Unfortunately, "plover" is not a commonly used word here in land-locked Missouri!
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