Steve,
That will be good if you could find the page number in the Bugei Ryuha Daijiten

You have the same problem with the ladies,we have lots of suspicous wives in the Tenyokai U.K.

I'm fully aware of the area that is kicked and I don't want go into details on the net,but I was wondering whether the kick is the same in the Shibata lineage?

Kind regards

Lee Masters

P.S.
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