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    The kata you refer to is that from the Gokui,but the kick is not to the ribs?
    Lee, yes, last year, Sensei demonstrated Zanshin metsuke on me in the dojo and the kick definately wasn't to the ribs.

    However, according to Russ (From what I understood), this just wasn't one kata. It was quite a few where the Tori would give the Uke a kick before withdrawing into Ichimonji no kamae.

    Have you seen any other kata in the the Gokui like that?

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    Steve

    Yes,I have both seen and felt these from both Kubota Sensei and my father.

    Russ(I hope you don't mind me calling you that?)
    Where these kata (Ryushin Katsuchu Ryu) of the Okuden?

    Kind regards
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    Lee,

    By Russ Ebert
    I would like to ask about the different branches of Tenjin Shinyo Ryu in existent around Japan. On a recent video I have seen of one of the branches, they end some of the kata with a swift kick to the ribs before zanshin

    Russ wasn't talking about Ryushin Katchu Ryu, he was talking about a different branch of our ryuha, Tenjin Shinyo Ryu that he saw on a video tape. The thread has kind of drifted a bit to TSR instead of RSKR.

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    Steve

    I think I've had to much Shime waza Der!

    Cheers
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    Originally posted by Mekugi
    Little confusion, there is a tape I have been telling Steve about that has a demonstration by a branch of TSR.
    I believe the person on the video is Shibata Koichi
    This branch is from Miyamoto Hanzo line.

    Miyamoto taught Aimiya Kazusaburo
    Aimiya taught Shibata Koichi.
    Last edited by George Kohler; 28th January 2003 at 06:13.
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    Lee,

    You aren't the only one who has had too much shime waza. I was KO'ed four times last year with Sode Guruma jime. :P

    Russ,

    Is "Oi Kappa!" acceptable? I'm wondering about that video. Was it filmed in Kanto or Kansai?

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    Originally posted by Mekugi
    George wrote:


    Hmm...I know i have his name listed on the taikai program copy I have, I can't read it though and the volume is shoddy on the tape.

    -Russ
    Hi Russ,

    If it is the video we talked about, then the person demonstrating was Shibata Koichi. He is also a practioner of Asayama Ichiden ryu taijutsu and Shindo Tenshin ryu kenpo (Tenshin ko ryu).
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    Originally posted by Mekugi
    BTW...the sword that fell out...it was the kodachi coming loose- it fell when his long pigsticker was being put back in place. Actually handled very well, they never broke zanshin.
    Yep, that's the one.
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    Russ
    That would be excellent.I've only seen pictures of Shibata Koichi so video of his waza would be interesting.

    Does anyone know what page is Ryushin Katsuchu Ryu on in the Bugei Ryuha Daijiten?I cannot find it.

    Steve,

    Sode Guruma Ah yes.

    Ok I feel abit with it now.The kata with the kick in the ribs was it a noticable Gokui kata?

    kind regards
    Lee Masters

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    Lee,

    In the daito-ryu demonstration tape, where Kubota does a demonstration he does a kick to the backribs in the Gokui (tachiai) technique where ukemi attacks with a odachi and torimi defend with a kodachi. In the end of the technique before the hira no kamae he kicks ukemi in the back...I think it was this technique at least (will check at home)...

    Regards,
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    Tommy
    I was refering to the difference in the kata of the different branches of Tenjin Shinyo Ryu.

    Kind regards
    Lee Masters

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    Tommy,

    In the daito-ryu demonstration tape, where Kubota does a demonstration he does a kick to the backribs in the Gokui (tachiai) technique where ukemi attacks with a odachi and torimi defend with a kodachi. In the end of the technique before the hira no kamae he kicks ukemi in the back...I think it was this technique at least (will check at home)...
    Kubota Sensei is a friend of Kondo Katsuyuki Sensei, but he isn't a member of Daito Ryu. Did you mean that he demonstrated Tenjin Shinyo Ryu at a Daito Ryu Enbutaikai?

    The description of the kata you described was quite similer to the one that Lee and I was talking about earlier.

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    Yes Steve,
    It was a demonstration. If I'm not totaly wrong...I think Lee has this tape aswell...

    Regards,
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    Tommy
    I have got the tape of that Daito Ryu Enbutaikai.

    Regards
    Lee

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    Lee,

    "Does anyone know what page is Ryushin Katsuchu Ryu on in the Bugei Ryuha Daijiten? I cannot find it."

    I'll have a flick through tonight. I'm sure that I have seen it in there before.


    "Sode Guruma Ah yes. "

    Yes, that old favourite. However, It does play havoc with men's lovelives, especially when you come home with red marks across your neck

    Sigh, the paranoia of women at times I didn't hear the end of that one for at least a month.

    "Ok I feel abit with it now.The kata with the kick in the ribs was it a noticable Gokui kata?"

    Well when Sensei did it to me, it definately wasn't to the ribs and we had a short discussion why afterwards. BTW, just a bit of trivia; did you notice that sensei omitted the kick in the Hiden magazine article? There was a reason why.
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