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    Hello all,

    I have been studying various martial arts for about 15 years or so, my wife and I have recently become interested in researching some suijutsu ryu-ha and were wondering if anyone knew of a good place to start. Thank you all very much.

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    Al Harris

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    3 years ago I scanned in some text and pics from a Japanese book on swimming printed before the War. It had 3 chapters on suijutsu, showing all the major strokes. We had a server crash and lost those files, but I might be able to make them again.
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    John Lindsey wrote:
    3 years ago I scanned in some text and pics from a Japanese book on swimming printed before the War. It had 3 chapters on suijutsu, showing all the major strokes. We had a server crash and lost those files, but I might be able to make them again.


    I ran across this page a couple of years ago. Is it at all similar to what is in your book? I don't think he was trying to propose that what he's teaching is a traditional suijutsu style by any means, but it looks interesting.

    http://www.pixi.com/~mcjitsu/mizujitsu/mizujitsu.html

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    John, that would be great, do you have the name/author of the book? Thank you for your reply.

    lemming, That does look like it would be fun, but really I am looking for some koryu

    Respectfully,
    Al Harris

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    Lightbulb it's a start ...

    Al,

    every march, the Nippon Budokan hosts a martial arts seminar for foreign nationals in japan (you may well be aware of it already), and this year's seminar featured a segment with the current headmaster of Kobori-ryu Tousuijutsu. we even had a chance to try it out.

    my attempts to research the ryuha through the internet, however, didn't turn up a great deal of information. not surprising, perhaps, but even digging through japanese websites didn't garner me much more than a few paragraphs. there was one site hosted by someone who appears to be a student of the school, and he displayed perhaps 4 or 5 photos of certain techniques.

    using Google and the search term "suijutsu" in japanese, i turned up about 1,000 hits. here's a page that lists a number of different suijutsu schools, along with the geographic locations where they are training. i hope this serves as a good starting point. post later if you have any questions.
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    Thanks very much Jeff, that is a nice starting point... my web searches were unfruitful as well. I appreciate all the help and if I find anything good, I will post

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    If you go to this site: http://www.buyubooks.com/ and do a search for suijutsu, you should get a few items back. I know they used to have a book on all the remaining schools, in japanese tough. And I think they have a few videos as well. Hope this helps.
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    The book I mentioned is called "Swimming in Japan" and written by the International Young Women and children's Society. Published in English, in 1935. No publisher listed, just Tokyo, Japan. The first 3rd of the book is on the history of swimming in Japan. The rest of it is about sport swimming.
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    Here is one page:
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    and another:
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    Question what about this?

    Originally posted by aharris
    >> Thanks very much Jeff, that is a nice starting point ... my web searches were unfruitful as well. <<


    glad to be of assistance, Al. i don't know if this next trick is going to work, to be honest, but please try opening this page with your browser. it's the results i got back from the Google search i ran above. i'm assuming at this point that your computer is enabled to display japanese.

    thanks for the great scans, John! do you actually own a copy of this book?
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    Yes, I bought the book on ebay a few years ago. Best 35 bucks I have spent in a long time.
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    Here is a pic (I can't remember where I got it) of suijutsu practice you might find interesting.
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    that photo i remember from the Budokan Seminar information page for this past march. unfortunately his name has slipped my mind, but he's the current headmaster of Kobori-ryu, the one i mentioned upthread. he actually demonstrated this technique for us. HTH.
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    Cool Another Website showing suijutsu

    Hi all,
    Here's a page from the Tsuki Kage Dojo, run by Nathan Scott:
    Kobori Ryu Tosuijutsu

    If you'd like more information, Nei-san-san ought to be lurking around here somewhere.

    Just in case, I'll send him an e-mail.

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