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    I love these sorts of posts.. HAs anyone here trained with Mr Pantazi? (He runs the kyusho.com site) I have been to seminars with him and others interested in kyusho and this stuff is real.. You all just need to open your eyes and go and train with these guys..
    Gary Liddington

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    Originally posted by Gary Liddington
    I love these sorts of posts.. HAs anyone here trained with Mr Pantazi? (He runs the kyusho.com site) I have been to seminars with him and others interested in kyusho and this stuff is real.. You all just need to open your eyes and go and train with these guys..

    Yeah,yeah,yeah......I love your sort of posts as well. "Have you ever trained with him?" great defensive strategy for discussion boards, but the fact remains that crap has yet to work on anyone that is not "open to the experience" ......he is welcome to come and try that on me anytime. UNtil such date and time that it works on me I will continue to think it is crap that only works on weak minds.

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    Default I give the guy credit

    It takes a lot of practice I am sure to stand perfectly still and wait to get "socked" in the eye with no kind of flinching what so ever. Or maybe his punch was just soooo lightning fast he couldn;t react in time!


    I like his comment "I read somewhere....."

    http://www.kyusho.com/eyeko1.wmv


    You would think you would put your "good stuff" up lol, to try and sell. Well, actually that is the good stuff. Baa ha ha ha This must be the "self defense" they teach for the seniors in the nursing homes??


    http://www.kyusho.com/jackieoickle1.wmv
    Daniel Son (Sonnenmeier)

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    Two of the worst displays I have ever seen.

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    Default Re: I give the guy credit

    Originally posted by Daniel Son

    http://www.kyusho.com/eyeko1.wmv
    The kappo is a little interesting. My Sensei has talked about how his teachers would tap on the back of his neck to help stop his nose from bleeding after taking a punch to the face. I never understood that treatment unless you smacked the guy hard enough he might forget about his nose for a little bit. Well I saw in this video the guy administers kappo by tapping the guy on the back of his neck. I'll tap the back of my neck sometimes if i feel draggy or tired it seems to wake me up a little. I still don't see how it slow nosebleeds.

    I still think these kind of Kyusho Jutsu guys should try for their national olympic judo teams. They could easily apply these knock outs and not after to worry about ducking incoming atemi. They could win Olympic gold medals and have alot more marketing power.
    Ed Boyd

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    I never thought that the back of the neck thing did anything useful for me. If I truly got rocked, the last thing I want is for anyone to be touching me. Please just let me throw up somewhere.

    As for a guy going down after getting smacked hard in the eye, there's a big secret. (dripping sarcasm) Many people will go down if you can manage to hit them. Even so, I have been nailed in the eye many times very hard and didn't go down. If the guy has any real experience fighting I doubt he would go down.

    As for the video clip of the girl... give me a break. It's too disgusting to even comment on...
    - Michael Bland

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    Default Re: Re: I give the guy credit

    Originally posted by CEB
    I still think these kind of Kyusho Jutsu guys should try for their national olympic judo teams. They could easily apply these knock outs and not after to worry about ducking incoming atemi. They could win Olympic gold medals and have alot more marketing power.
    Forget judo. We're talking multi-million dollar potential in the NFL--which brings up an interesting point. I think the real mystery is why judoka, NFL lineman, and sumotori, in all the hours they spend in close contact with each other, don't ever seem to accidentally "tap" any of these points and leave their opponents mysteriously incapacitated. Hmmm...

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    Originally posted by Michael Bland
    Even so, I have been nailed in the eye many times very hard and didn't go down. If the guy has any real experience fighting I doubt he would go down.

    True........Sean and I know your weak point is actually your little toe! (inside joke) How about posting your hospital photos!

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    Originally posted by Troll Basher
    Yeah,yeah,yeah......I love your sort of posts as well. .
    Um.. All I'm saying is that you could go to him. He's not going to worry about what you think.. Instead of just blowing it out of the water maybe you could do it purely out of interest?

    But then again I've just seen that you are located in Japan, so getting to him may be difficult.
    Gary Liddington

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    True........Sean and I know your weak point is actually your little toe! (inside joke) How about posting your hospital photos!
    I don't think the photos do the injury justice. It still hurts me to think about it. But they have been up on my website for quite some time:

    Nastily broken pinky toe

    enjoy...
    - Michael Bland

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    Originally posted by Gary Liddington
    Um.. All I'm saying is that you could go to him. He's not going to worry about what you think.. Instead of just blowing it out of the water maybe you could do it purely out of interest?

    But then again I've just seen that you are located in Japan, so getting to him may be difficult.
    I have commented on this kind of thing on other threads here and other BBs......I have had people claim to be able to do that kind of thing but to date NOBODY has ever been able to pull it off on me or anybody that wasn't their student.
    Plus I have no interest in learning such "techniques" since they tend to make a joke of the MAs and the people there in.

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    I also might add that I have lived in China/Taiwan for three years and seen some pretty strange stuff from people practicing Ki that I couldn't explain how or why it works.....none of which had any real practical value for defense against violent attacks....but it was interesting.
    I have seen a plethera of Western "Pseudo Intellectual wet fart" Martial Artists try to pass of what they do as some sort of Ki or kyusho and insist it is a defensive technique. Basically it comes across as childish and stupid.......not to mention useless.
    Last edited by Troll Basher; 5th May 2004 at 22:48.

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    OK.. Fair enough. But you have to take these things in context. I agree that a very fast brutal assault will probably mean that specific strikes to specific kyusho will not be possible. However, of these guys are martial artists of one kind or another, so you would have to rely on your skills in that art to defend yourself.

    The impression is very much painting-by-numbers kyusho, but all the schools teaching kyusho jutsu teach a specific martial art then incorporate the kyusho into that art.

    Going back to my first point though, if the situation is right then kyusho can be effective (usally first strike scenarios; ever been punched and winded?). None of the instructors say that 'you will drop anyone with this 100% guaranteed'. They are realistic enough to realise that kyusho doesn't work on everyone. Just like not everyone has a high pain tolerance, not everyone likes hot foods etc etc

    And yet another way to look at kyusho is that 'kyusho' can be defined as a weak point. Not just a pressure point..

    Just trying to keep things civil..
    Gary Liddington

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    Originally posted by Gary Liddington

    And yet another way to look at kyusho is that 'kyusho' can be defined as a weak point. Not just a pressure point..

    Just trying to keep things civil..
    I have corrected and given (on other posts, BBs, threads) the definition of Kyusho as related to MAs.....I have yet to see anyone on these tapes/mpegs even come close to doing Kyusho techniques.

    Suffice it to say one should know and understand what the Japanese word "kyusho" actually means as related MA before they use in in print or claim to be able to do it as a technique.

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    Ok. Out of personal interest could you give your definition of a kyusho technique? As I mentioned before, I have heard a few different definitions of the term, and I am always happy to hear more.
    Gary Liddington

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