Originally posted by Oniyama
As I understand it, Tanemura and the Genbukan, Manaka and the Jinenkan and Hayes with To Shin Do are all off limits. I had recently heard that there were others. It's these others for which I am curious.
Why not train with them? Just go and learn what you need, which is what we are all learning to do.
Just that Hayes teaches To Shin Do, does not mean you can not actually train with him, it is that you can not train with him under the bujinkan name when looking into To Shin Do. Just as long as you do not wear the badge and belt, you can train. After all, it is now good to go and X train with other styles, so why not with Hayes.
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