Well, if you want to be technical about it...Originally Posted by tddeangelo
Some see it that way, and yes Kano definitely wanted to preserve what was all ready being lost, but his reasons for using the term "judo" instead of "jujutsu" was more along the lines of making sure that people understood that he wasn't *only* creating a style of jujutsu, but a repository of sorts. Kano did, after all, teach or had others teach what today some call bujutsu, such as defensive and offensive ways of using a sword. Most photos, however, show him teaching women these kinds of defense. Besides, what I was really referring to was simply the terminology and not the actual thing itself. IOW, I do not think there was a concious effort to divide budo and bujutsu until much later when there was enough evidence to debate the subject. On top of that, I have to admit those are not exactly my words, the budo/bujutsu time continuum comes from a person who is well-respected in koryu and who used to be a common poster (not that he was common), but it was his argument in a discussion on the same topic that area I was using.
I agree with you concerning Uyeshiba but his reasons had a more striking spiritual reason or reasons behind it while Kano was probably being more practical: pragmatic v. esoteric, if you will.
As far as I know, budo really shouldn't be any different than bujutsu. Or better said, perhaps, that budo doesn't necessarily mean old nor does budo mean new. Even Kano said that we study jujutsu so that one day we practice judo. Kano did have certain reasons for some things, standardized ukemi, invitational shiai as opposed to taryu jiai which he detested. The latter particularly was important so that people would become better people instead of better or meaner hoodlums, something else he disliked of some of the schools of his time (some actually jumped students in, IOW, beat them up, before admittance to the particular jujutsu or kobudo schools).
So you can say it is like that, but I doubt you will find much difference in a kyudo dojo than in a kyujutsu dojo. That is probably the better argument that the two are interchangeable. Of course, it could be said this way:
Charlie Chan: "Jujutsu please, not Judo."
And just to give you more credit, Kano did have more than a dozen schools of what we call koryu jujutsu helping him when it became time to organized the gokyo no waza. In that context, you are right that some things did have to be eliminated, though it would probably be more along the lines of changing the non-practical forms into practical ones. That was his gift to budo.
Mark