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    Dear all,

    Does anyone know what direct foreign students Inoue Motokatsu (Ryukyu Kobujutsu) had and what they are doing today?

    Thanks a lot,

    Thomas James

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    Hello:

    Inoue Motokatsu's books in English and Japanese give a list of his foreign students. For example, in Ancient Martial Arts of the Ryukyu Islands:

    Tino Cebreano
    Leif Hermansson
    Ilpo Jalamo
    Edward Jardine
    Julian Mead
    Paul Starling
    John Sullivan
    Rob Zwartjes


    However these books are quite old now and these students may not be active anymore.

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    http://www.rkagb.com/ - click on 'links'...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sanseru
    Inoue Motokatsu's books in English and Japanese give a list of his foreign students.
    Thanks for the answer. Do you know where to get the books?

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    Hello:

    I'm sure if you did a google search that the English language books would turn up. As for the Japanese language books, they may be still available through Shureido Japan.
    Mario McKenna
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    Quote Originally Posted by thomas_james
    Dear all,

    Does anyone know what direct foreign students Inoue Motokatsu (Ryukyu Kobujutsu) had and what they are doing today?

    Thanks a lot,

    Thomas James
    Dear Thomas,

    I was a direct student of Inoue Motokatsu sensei.

    How may I help?
    Patrick McCarthy
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    Are the black Hakama just for blackbelts, or your all practicioners?

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    Does nobody know?

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    In the Birmingham group, only Snewin-sensei wore hakama.

    Why'd you ask?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ScottUK
    In the Birmingham group, only Snewin-sensei wore hakama.

    Why'd you ask?
    Because I saw only Kobujutsu-representatives with a Hakama so far and I just wanted to know.

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    I guess that was worth a thread...
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    Quote Originally Posted by thomas_james
    Are the black Hakama just for blackbelts, or your all practicioners?
    As a rule, the RKHSK [Ryukyu Kobujutsu Hozon Shinko kai] yudansha wear hakama for formal demonstrations. Motokatsu Sensei wore Hakama always, whether teaching or demonstrating.

    While hakama are rarely worn in Okinawan kobudo, they are usually the domain of Japanese-based traditions; i.e. Aikido, Iai, and Koryu-groups, etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sanseru
    Tino Cebreano
    Leif Hermansson
    Ilpo Jalamo
    Edward Jardine
    Julian Mead
    Paul Starling
    John Sullivan
    Rob Zwartjes
    I could find Mr. Mead, Jardine, Jalamo and Hermansson through Google. Does anyone know if and where Mr. Starling, Sullivan, Zwartjes and Cebreano are teaching?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patrick McCarthy
    As a rule, the RKHSK [Ryukyu Kobujutsu Hozon Shinko kai] yudansha wear hakama for formal demonstrations. Motokatsu Sensei wore Hakama always, whether teaching or demonstrating.

    While hakama are rarely worn in Okinawan kobudo, they are usually the domain of Japanese-based traditions; i.e. Aikido, Iai, and Koryu-groups, etc.
    Thanks for your response. How was training with OSensei Inoue? Like things he put a lot of emphasis on or special training methods? Why didn't he become the 2. president of the RKHSK, as he was Taira Shinken's best student?

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    Quote Originally Posted by thomas_james
    Thanks for your response. How was training with OSensei Inoue? Like things he put a lot of emphasis on or special training methods? Why didn't he become the 2. president of the RKHSK, as he was Taira Shinken's best student?
    I enjoyed my studies with the master and, in particular, I liked the way he re-systematized his Taira-based learning. It made much more sense to me than what I experienced elsewhere from other students of Taira's.

    TTBOMK, Inoue Motokatsu did become the 2nd president, following the passing of Mr. Taira. As I understand it there were political issues over the position [between he and Mr. Akamine Eisuke] which resulted in him changing the name to Ryukyu Kobujutsu Hozon Shinko Kai.

    FYI, Ilpo Jalamo is a colleague and friend of mine and represents the Inoue group in Finland. Mr. Hermansson is also a colleague and friend of mine and was close to the late Inoue Motokatsu but no longer has anything to do with the RKHSK under the direction of the later master's son, Kisho. Tino Ceberano is also a colleague and friend of mine and I know for certain that he has absolutely nothing to do with the RKHSK and does not practice or teach Inoue-based kobujutsu.

    I don't actually know Mr. Sullivan but understand that he no longer has anything to do with the RKHSK. I do know Paul Starling, but don't believe that he is active in kobujutsu. Actually, having watched him practice in Japan I don't believe that he was ever was very committed to developing his kobujutsu skills anyway and would hardly think he was ever "qualified" to be in charge teaching the art of anything unless it was a political position.

    I have met Eddie Jardine in Japan [and Sweden] and know that he is actively involved with the RKHSK and represents it in the RSA. I don't know Julian Mead --- only of him --- but do know that he is actively involved with the RKHSK and one of its representatives.
    Patrick McCarthy
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