Originally Posted by
hectokan
The methods of training that Bruce was advocating back in the late 60s is similar to the training methods seen today in MMA.Maybe not as detailed in the grappling dept but the concepts of alive training,conditioning,weight training and contact sparring none the less all have the same flavor.He was willing to train outside the pandora box in different training methods ,something that was unheard of in the traditional arts during that time period.
Maybe here, in the US, I'll grant you. But that was well after Minoru Mochizuki and Hiroo Mochizuki had started developing their unique melange of several Japanese arts in yoseikan budo. That art included all the kinds of things Bruce sketched out in Tao of Jeet Kune Do with the added bonus that they were both actual masters in the multiple arts Bruce "examined". He sketched out things like judo grappling, but his experience there was pretty shallow. But the Mochizukis developed striking and kicking through karate, jujutsu and sword, grappling and throwing through judo, aikido and jujutsu, plus all the chokes of jujutsu...anything else? Sutemi waza, where you throw the opponent by falling down? Sensei had at least fifty of those.
I think what Bruce Lee did best was articulate his own vision of his own path in life. Jackie Chan said that what impressed him about Bruce was that Bruce thought in terms of millions. At that time, Jackie was trying to impress twenty or thirty people at a time. He said when he met Bruce, it made him realize that he could just as easily think of influencing millions of people as thirty people.
As someone mentioned earlier he was a movie star that became very famous but anyone that personally knew him and this includes movies stars and elite martial art practicioners of that era will tell you that he was a devoted practicioner bordering on a fanatical mindset when it came to personal training and combat effectiveness.
Yes, but something killed him at a very young age and I think it is contained in your statement directly above. He trained HIMSELF. He followed no master after his few years training with Yip Man. If he'd followed an older, wiser teacher, he might be alive today.
But then, Man Jack Wong IS alive today....ironic, isn't it?
The truth of the matter is that bruce could not have possibly come up with his fighting ideals without really experiencing it firsthand.[/quote]
Hmm. Maybe he shouldn't have. Dead at 32 should not be a recommendation for anyone. Maybe he should have trained more in forms, as Man Jack Wong did.
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