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    I found this page on one of the link from David Somer's signature. http://www.virtualginza.com/hogan.htm My question: How are certain parts of words that feature sounds such as "uu", "ii", or "aa" pronounced? Are they prounounced as double vowels, or as seperate vowel sounds?

    Input is appreciated,

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    Quote Originally Posted by dori_kin_86
    I found this page on one of the link from David Somer's signature. http://www.virtualginza.com/hogan.htm My question: How are certain parts of words that feature sounds such as "uu", "ii", or "aa" pronounced? Are they prounounced as double vowels, or as seperate vowel sounds?

    Input is appreciated,

    Andrew
    just saw this, andrew did you get a response?

    the double vowels are the "long" sound... "uu" would be "oooo". make sense?

    For example, in hogen, miichii is the number 3, if you shorten it (phonetically) to "michi" then it would sound like the word for road, path, etc. in japanese.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dori_kin_86
    I found this page on one of the link from David Somer's signature. http://www.virtualginza.com/hogan.htm My question: How are certain parts of words that feature sounds such as "uu", "ii", or "aa" pronounced? Are they prounounced as double vowels, or as seperate vowel sounds?

    Input is appreciated,

    Andrew
    A good guy to ask about this is E-Budo Member Tim Jurgens, his wife is from Okinawa, and I think he speaks some Okinawan dialect as well
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    James East (a.k.a. Bakaboy) is another E-Budo member who may be able to help with these sorts of questions. He has been living in Okinawa for the past seven years, and has been training with teachers who speak predominantly in the local language.
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    I think that Mr. Stebbins has the correct answer. Unlike English there are very few (if any) vowel shifts in Hogen or Japanese so double vowels represent a longer sound.

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