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    Default All you gaijin are gonna be fingerprinted and photographed!!

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060517/...gerprinting_dc

    I wonder if the 5th generation Koreans living in Tokyo will have to do the same thing?

    Why not fingerprint and photograph everybody?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jody Holeton
    http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060517/...gerprinting_dc

    I wonder if the 5th generation Koreans living in Tokyo will have to do the same thing?

    Why not fingerprint and photograph everybody?
    The article says that "special permanent resident" Koreans will not have to be fingerprinted.

    I remember getting fingerprinted for my gaijin card back in 1998. I was surprised when I didn't have to do it this time around when I came back to Japan last year. I didn't know they had stopped that in 2000.
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    This was SOP for anyone staying longer than a month back when I lived in Japan. You had to register at the local city office and get fingerprinted and have your photo taken. Then they'd issue you a gaijin card and it was a crime if the cops ever questioned you and you didn't have your gaijin card with you. Korean residents still have to have gaijin cards, but they don't have to get fingerprinted. They fought long and hard to get that repealed. The only thing new here is that they are doing it for all foreign arrivals at the port of entry regardless of the period of stay. Sounds like a big waste of yen to me.
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    Default i think i am too simple minded.....

    i am wondering how this is suppose to stop terrorism and protect the people of japan. having my picture and figerprints taken does not stop me from committing an act of terrorism or any crime for that matter. if i wanted to be a suicide bomber, what good will it do to have my pic and fingerprints after i am dead. i guess they could use the picture on the news and say, "this is the person that did this or did that". but in the end, what difference does it make? obviously i am no expert on these sorts of things, so someone please tell me how this prevents or even deters terrorism.

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    If they use it the way the US government does, they scan the prints and pics and run them agains a centralized data base of known terrorists and international criminals. Of course, if you aren't in the database, then your pic and print won't stop anything.
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    Well, we do all look alike...

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    It reminds me of an incident involving a pair of former workmates, an American woman and British bloke who were married and decided to hyphenate their surnames. Pretty normal.
    Anyway, they go off to America to visit her family. They are queued up in the airport when the good folks from immigration call them over and escort them into a little office for interrogation.
    Seems that security had decided that hyphenated surnames were suspect (i.e. if it has a hyphen, it's probably Arabic... hmmm, stupid AND racist...)
    So these now embarrassed immigration inspectors are forced to explain the situation to Richard and Lisa Mariot-Smith.

    Or the time when the police and immigration here seemed to be doing a crackdown. All of my workmates who arrived at the station at a particular time of day were stopped and asked to show their Alien Registration card - all, except for the Canadian girl of Chinese extraction, who obviously didn't look "foreign".

    Maybe we should just ask terrorists to wear badges. It would make things so much easier...
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    i can only imagine how much extra time it will now take to make it out of the airport.

    and what of actual terrorists who, as a way to get around this, just recruit from within japan to carry out their plans of terror. again, maybe it is not as easy as that.
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    I was over there 3 weeks ago, it didn`t happen then!, any idea on the date it will start from??
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    Quote Originally Posted by kendoka69
    i can only imagine how much extra time it will now take to make it out of the airport.

    and what of actual terrorists who, as a way to get around this, just recruit from within japan to carry out their plans of terror. again, maybe it is not as easy as that.

    With that in mind, many of us probably forget that Japan used to have a serious terrorist threat - the Red Army. Of course, lets not forget Aum Shinrikyo. Hmm, both home grown. But then, the DPRK did kidnap a number of Japanese citizens, so its not all homegrown.

    As for Japanese immigration, try coming back from Korea after a short trip while dressed like a dirt bag (or at least what a Japanese official would view as a dirt bag). Good way to get your luggage torn apart and strip searched. I only avoided the latter because I could speak Japanese and was able to do some fast talking.
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    I'm going to Japan in August, so maybe they'll be doing it by then and I can report on what the experience was like. I've stood in the riduculously long "Gaijin" line at Narita's immigration gateway my share of times, so, it will probably be just one more thing to make that line go even slower. If I do have to give my fingerprints, it probably won't be a good idea to stick my fingers in the ink, yell "nobody makes me fingerpaint if I don't want to" and rub my fingers on whatever or whoever happens to be in the immediate vicinity.

    Whenever I travel with my wife into Narita (which I won't be this August), I usually go through the "Japanese" (i.e. "Express") line with her, much to the apparent chagrin of the unfortunate onlookers standing in the nearby "Gaijin" line. I wonder if Japanese immigration would still fingerprint me in that situation?
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    Talking What?

    Quote Originally Posted by Andrew S
    Maybe we should just ask terrorists to wear badges. It would make things so much easier...
    Badgers!! BADGERS!!!!!! We don't need no stinking badgers!!!!!!
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    Badgers? Did someone say Badgers???

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    I am in the interesting position of having an ARC (alien card) that has an expired visa date on the front I don't get asked for ID, but if the police ever pull me up it will be a fun 10 seconds before I tell them to read the back!
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    The damn cards crack pretty easily (is is that just too much loose change and a big fat curvy bum?)
    But, yes, the fun of "Don't forget to check the back of the card"
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