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    Yeah, that's what I thought, it just seems to me that some of the people use Sensei as a special term to denote a martial art teacher specificly...

    Friends don't need to be equal, just friendly :P
    -Amir Barak

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    Quote Originally Posted by JS3
    Just reading around the forum and I started thinking.
    There are basically three schools of thought regarding
    how to address your instructor:
    1 Sensei
    2 The highest title they have (Renshi, Kyoshi, Dai-Ni-Soke)
    3 Just casually by their first name.

    My question is as a society are we becoming more socially lax
    or just don't care about showing respect.
    For example I was taught to always address someone older than
    me as Mr., Mrs. or whatever until they told me otherwise.
    This is something I do till this day, Also I am reminded every time
    I go down south that some people still use Sir and Ma'am (sp) for
    someone they don't know.

    I believe that using these titles bring some sort of "order" to things
    a kind of "knowing your place" feeling like the saying goes,
    “Familiarity breeds contempt”

    I am reminded of what one of my instructors said:
    “I am not your friend, I am your teacher” kind of falls in line
    with the idea of being a parent to your kids and not their “friend”.

    Basically what I’m asking is are we so eager to be everybody’s friend
    that we sacrifice our roles as teachers and students?

    Just a thought.

    (Mods if this is in the wrong forum please move it to a more appropriate
    place.)
    I believe there is a difference between being friendly and being a friend of.
    In the class it is important the student respects the teacher and addresses him as such. Personally, I dont have much time for formal address outside the dojo,at least I dont like it when I am addressed although there would be occasions when I dont know the teacher that I would address him as sensei.
    Generally, though, I dont care what people call me outside the dojo.

    I also believe in acting friendly but I would never make friends of students in the same way that I have never socialised outside of work or have friends from work. That is just my way, I comparmentalise everything so I have my home life, work and dojo lives.

    In the end, its horses for courses. A student may be with a teacher for a long time and develop a friendship. The class may be very small and therefore more intimate. The teacher may be gregarious. A teacher may prefer formality, or not. It doesnt really matter as long as the student is learning properly and respects the teacher for the knowledge that s/he is passing on.
    Trevor Gilbert
    ("If I had to select one quality, one personal characteristic that I regard as being most highly correlated with success, whatever the field, I would pick the trait of persistence. Determination. The will to endure to the end, to get knocked down seventy times and get up off the floor saying "Here goes number seventy-one" - Richard M. DeVos)

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    Weren't the Ryuha (or is it Ryu, I alway get confused with the terms) not just a training unit but also a socio-political entity?

    Does anyone know how that affected the Teacher-Student interaction previously, or how it translates into modern day interaction? (Again, I know next to nothing about the post-restoration/modern martial arts, and just slightly more about the Koryu, but I want to learn!)
    -Amir Barak

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