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Let’s just say that neither Sato Kinbei or Tanemura are highly regarded in Koryu circles. I could tell you numerous stories about the exploits of Sato Kinbei, but I probably shouldn’t go there. While I have never met Tanemura, I see a lot of Sato sensei in him. As Simon mentioned, Sato was an instructor of the Sendai-line of YSR (Heiho), not Taijutsu.
I hope this sets things straight.
Lots of great info that does provide good, direct info, and a little innuendo that frankly doesn't.
'Koryu circles' seem to gossip more than old women (with all due apologies to elderly women....), and this sort of innuendo regarding Sato Kinbei doesn't seem to help add info to the discussion. Why not go there? You already did
What would you have to say directly about the reputation of Sato Kinbei, particularly regarding YSR? Just curious. Anyone who claims such a broad range of mastery is going to engender suspicion, but suspicion does not equal info. But in the real world someone with a PhD, money, and time to do what he wants to do is going to engender a lot of jealousy no matter the circles. And his departures into Chinese martial arts and healing, etc., presumably weren't welcome by many.
But more pertinently to this thread, according to your info, did he study YSR under a reasonably qualified instructor? Did he make it up? Did he have any sort of traditional qualifications from anyone recognized in YSR? AFAIK the family still sponsors a YSR dojo, too, doesn't it? Is it completely unfounded in the thought of 'mainstream YSR' or however you would term it?
And Shimizu sensei certainly seems to have his own detractors, too; anyone who's in the 'martial arts press' in Japan every single month has to have run out of new things to say many, many issues ago. But he's still there, almost every month....
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