I don't know if this was discussed before but what is the origin of gassho rei?
Is it japanese, chinese or even indian?
Is it used outside of shorinji kempo?
I don't know if this was discussed before but what is the origin of gassho rei?
Is it japanese, chinese or even indian?
Is it used outside of shorinji kempo?
"The universe is change; our life is what our thoughts make it."-Marcus Aurelius
Fabian Känzig
It is a Buddhist gesture that goes back to India.Originally Posted by Kaenzig
Very much so. It's a known gesture in all places in Southern Asia where Buddhism spread.Is it used outside of shorinji kempo?
Josh Reyer
Swa sceal man don, þonne he æt guðe gengan þenceð longsumne lof, na ymb his lif cearað. - The Beowulf Poet
I've spent a lot of time in Thailand over the years and the gesture is very common there, I think used more as an act of humility/asking for forgiveness than how it is used in Shorinji.
Sean Dixie
thank you for the answers. I'm feeling less stupid now.
"The universe is change; our life is what our thoughts make it."-Marcus Aurelius
Fabian Känzig
Wikipedia give som explanation from a non-kenshi perspective.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gassho#G
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Anders Pettersson
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半ばは自己の幸せを、半ばは他人の幸せを - 宗 道臣
"Nakaba wa jiko no shiawase wo, nakaba wa hito no shiawase wo" - So Doshin
Definately buddhist.....
Check this picture from our site, when some of my kenshi visied a chinese state circus which had a shaolin monks demo...
Gassho!
No one in this picture is doing proper Gassho rei!Originally Posted by Steve Williams
Kesshu,
______ Jan.
Jan Lipsius
少林寺拳法
Shorinjikempo
Humboldt University Berlin Branch
"An eye for an eye only ends up making the whole world blind." Gandhi
In most cultures, the equivalent of gassho rei is performed with the elbows down against the sides of the chest and the hands under chin level.
My understanding is that Kaiso chose this greeting as a combination of the Indian sign of peaceful salutation (Namaste) and the fact that there is no bowing, symbolising that we are all equals and the hands in front of the face having a defensive purpose.
Robert Gassin
Melbourne ShorinjiKempo Branch
Australia
"Never fight an idiot. He'll bring you down to his level and then beat you with experience"
A while back I helped a young Japanese lady carry her suitcase down the stairs at Paddington station. When we got to the bottom she said thank you and did gassho rei. I always wondered if she was a kenshi...
Steve Malton
Shorinji Kempo
Oxford Dojo
Steve! You'll do anything for a date!
Sean Dixie
I'd think she would have to be - only monks/priests and kenshi do that in Japan - I've done gassho rei out of reflex when saying thank you to a Japanese colleague at work and he thought I was going crazy...Originally Posted by Steve Malton
......more importantly.......how did she know that you are a kenshi?Originally Posted by Steve Malton
Are you sure she was Japanese? - for instance Nepalese gassho rei all the time (though it's called Namaste)
Jude Peel
"Flying is learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." - Douglas Adams
Because I was in London yet being nice to a stranger? Seriously, probably she didn't, but like Leon, a lot of kenshi rei reflexively, maybe she did too?Originally Posted by Indar
Pretty sure - my ear for foreign language is a bit shoddy but I think she said Arigato.Originally Posted by judepeel
Steve Malton
Shorinji Kempo
Oxford Dojo
Maybe it's possible the use of Gassho Rei as a greeting and farewell salute between kenshi is also connected to the fist raised under the palm in Pre-Modern China? This seems to emphasise respect and loyalty, though I don't know much about this - not my specific area of study.
Gassho,
Ronnie.