Which Iai Koryu do you do?

[Andy Watson]

Sorry to "use" E-budo but this thread occured in KW...

http://www.kendo-world.com/forum/showthread.php?t=20133

And I thought it would be interesting to see how the stats go. I realise that there is some discussion as to which styles are koryu but lets just let that go...

[Kendoguy9]

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[Andy Watson]

Then I guess that's "Other"...

[DDATFUS]

Andy, the thread title says "Iai" but the pole just says "koryu/sword style." Some koryu sword styles don't really include iai, so do you want guys from those styles to chime in?

If so, then I'm in the same "other" as Chris.

[Andy Watson]

I guess that's the problem with this poll, it was aimed at iai styles orginally but I realise there are grey areas.

Can I just ask for the time being those that practice JSA with a real sword in a kata fashion to please vote.

We may need another pole for kenjutsu practitioners.

Thanks guys and gals

[DDATFUS]

Can I just ask for the time being those that practice JSA with a real sword in a kata fashion to please vote.

Well, our style does use real swords in kata fashion-- but only for two-man kenjutsu kata which start with the sword already drawn

[Andy Watson]

I think that makes it a kenjutsu rather than a batto or iai art, but then I don't know either.

[Kim Taylor]

We may need another pole for kenjutsu practitioners.

Some of those kenjutsu guys are scary, if they don't like this poll you may well need another pole Andy.

;-)

Kim Taylor

[DDATFUS]

I think that makes it a kenjutsu rather than a batto or iai art, but then I don't know either.

Oh, I realize now that what I do falls outside what you're looking for-- I'm just picky enough to point out that just because we "practice JSA with a real sword in kata fashion" doesn't mean that we do iai. Off the top of my head, I can think of two koryu sword arts that have no iai but that use shinken for paired kenjutsu kata (Maniwa Nen Ryu and Jikishinkage Ryu) and I'm sure that there are others.

It might be interesting if you ask people who practice a koryu whether or not their art includes iai, and if so how large a role it plays in their art.

Anyway, just me being obnoxious. I'll try to shut up now.

[Andy Watson]

Oh, I realize now that what I do falls outside what you're looking for-- I'm just picky enough to point out that just because we "practice JSA with a real sword in kata fashion" doesn't mean that we do iai. Off the top of my head, I can think of two koryu sword arts that have no iai but that use shinken for paired kenjutsu kata (Maniwa Nen Ryu and Jikishinkage Ryu) and I'm sure that there are others.

It might be interesting if you ask people who practice a koryu whether or not their art includes iai, and if so how large a role it plays in their art.

Anyway, just me being obnoxious. I'll try to shut up now.

David, obnoxious? Not at all.

You've pointed at a grey area which of course is difficult to qualify. You're quite right that my description would include those kenjutsu kata, perhaps I should have said in a solo form....m'kay, I will.

[Chuck.Gordon]

You need a multiple choice option ...

[Brian Owens]

You need a multiple choice option ...

I voted for three arts, so I guess it is (now, at any rate) multiple choice.

I really only "do" (or, rather, "did") two arts, but I've attended a few seminars in Toyama Ryu and off-shoots, so I marked that one, too.

My "Other" is definitely not koryu, but included solo kata/waza with iaito, so I think that was part of the question.

[Ookami7]

Brian,

I`m with you. I ended up marking about 3 of them. Main line is MSR, but have been to seminar and some of the kata cross over with the kae waza so checked MJER, and I studied Toyama ryu and that Senseis own style so muliply choice answer for me as well.

-- Jeff Collier

[Aden]

Odd people - the question was "Which koryu/sword style do you do?" not did or have been exposed to...

So despite having been taught the first set in MSR (and occasionally doing some of them), having instruction in the 8 display forms of another school, spending 6 months in a Mugai dojo and various other things at seminar over the last 15 years I just ticked Tamiya - I do not "do" the other styles.

Aden

[john_lord_b3]

Can I just ask for the time being those that practice JSA with a real sword in a kata fashion to please vote.

When I was training with the KJJR people, we do many paired sword Katas with Bokken, Iaito and Shinken. I still practise many of those Katas. I was told that they came from Kukishin-ryu. Therefore, I vote for "other".