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    Quote Originally Posted by lucky1899 View Post
    I meant violent and sexually hardcore. I don't think depiction of rape in a game will influence those with a strong mind to go out and commit the act in society. ...................................... As far as I'm concerned, feminist groups and members of this board can think whatever they want. It's a public forum, I'm not friends with those that subscribe to such ideas. I wouldn't be around them at the same time, I think each person has a right to play whatever game they want.
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    Andrew, the problem is by definition, not everyone in society has a ‘strong mind,’ especially from the age of four years old. Infact I would propose that much like driving ability, everyone thinks they have an above average mental strength, which if the bell curve is to be believed, is wrong for at least half of the population.
    I would also add that unless im reading this wrong a ‘’ violent and sexually hardcore’’ film would involve showing S&M or rape films to a child of four, children of four have no real moral compass yet, and do and will learn by experience, if watching that from the age of four didn’t impact you in any way, then you may indeed have a very strong mind, or your kidding yourself and will never know because you have no baseline to compare.



    As to prohibition, no of course I don’t want that, in Europe we have a classification system to try and let adult rated ‘action’ stay just that - adult rated. And for the most part, consumer pressure allows actual abhorrent (and others that the popular media miss-targets, nothing sells papers like a witch hunt) entertainment such as found in games that involve the encouragement of paedophilia and rape to not be produced in the western mainstream market, its just unfortunate that Japan seems to be a sanctuary for the more then slightly deviant market of such goods.

    Now onto people who play RAPE GAMES for there own entertainment, passing through the moral arguments, and the common denominator arguments, onto the actual practical concerns, who here wouldn’t be at least slightly concerned about a younger sister, or close female friend who was going on a date someone who you knew played these types of games?

    Or a slightly more applicable question, imagine you’re an aikido sensei, and find out from an online Budo forum, that one of your students advocated playing Rape games, and became verbally offensive when someone suggested that they were morally repugnant, does this matter? Should you carry on teaching him in the hope he will change, or would you deem teaching hand to hand restraining skills to someone with these interests an unacceptable risk?
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    Theres an article on the game in question here:

    http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/ne...-14183546.html

    with a quote from Professor Peter Hepper, heads the School of Psychology at Queen's University Belfast:

    ''There have been high profile instances of individuals copying from TV and games. However I think these are the exception rather than the rule.

    If one looked at the overall proportion of people who copy such things then it is likely to be very small. However to a potential victim even if one person does - that is one too many.

    I don’t think that it would make someone not so inclined to commit an illegal act more inclined or likely to commit a specific act.

    However if people are already inclined to view the world this way it may reinforce their views and make it more likely they would undertake an illegal act. I suspect the will to do this would need to be there in the first place. ''
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    Quote Originally Posted by bu-kusa View Post
    Andrew, the problem is by definition, not everyone in society has a ‘strong mind,’ especially from the age of four years old. Infact I would propose that much like driving ability, everyone thinks they have an above average mental strength, which if the bell curve is to be believed, is wrong for at least half of the population.
    I would also add that unless im reading this wrong a ‘’ violent and sexually hardcore’’ film would involve showing S&M or rape films to a child of four, children of four have no real moral compass yet, and do and will learn by experience, if watching that from the age of four didn’t impact you in any way, then you may indeed have a very strong mind, or your kidding yourself and will never know because you have no baseline to compare.


    "Agreed."


    Now onto people who play RAPE GAMES for there own entertainment, passing through the moral arguments, and the common denominator arguments, onto the actual practical concerns, who here wouldn’t be at least slightly concerned about a younger sister, or close female friend who was going on a date someone who you knew played these types of games?

    "Agreed."

    Or a slightly more applicable question, imagine you’re an aikido sensei, and find out from an online Budo forum, that one of your students advocated playing Rape games, and became verbally offensive when someone suggested that they were morally repugnant, does this matter? Should you carry on teaching him in the hope he will change, or would you deem teaching hand to hand restraining skills to someone with these interests an unacceptable risk?
    Good question, I would have to weigh the totality of circumstances to know for sure what I would do but I understand your perspective.

    I think we agree, simply stated, that it's a shame those of us not-inclined to be criminals cannot enjoy "exotic" games.

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    Andrew De Luna

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