Okami Gakko Ryu Ninjutsu

[Moko]

Hi all.

Does anyone here know anything about Okami Gakko Ryu Ninjutsu? I have never heard of t before however that means jack.

Thanks for the help.

[Mark Brecht]

Robert,

that came up only recently. I was looking for it, but did not find it yet. I try again.

Btw, why do you post this in the BJK section ??? This post should (probably will) be moved over to the Ninpo (Neo Ninja section).

[Moko]

Hey Mark,

I posted it in here as I don't think other people will look in here. That plus I think those of us in the Booj are smarter than the others. I would consider it dishonorable but I am very niave. I have never checked out the Genbukan site. The Fraud sites though are open season, though. Hehehehe.

The reason I asked about this Okami stuff, is that buddy just opened up a school in a suburb of Victoria. From the photos it looks like they don't understand the basics of Budo which is funny. I also like to gather some info on people before I walk into their dojo.

He has the most annoying music on his site.

[Dennis_Mahon]

I posted it in here as I don't think other people will look in here. That plus I think those of us in the Booj are smarter than the others.

Now don't be like that....there is no need to insult anybody just because they're not part of the Bujinkan. I certainly would never claim to be smarter than anybody else just because I've joined the Bujinkan (mostly because of the numerous witnesses to my stupidity in the past), and neither should you.

[Chi]

(School of the wolf Ryuu??)

http://www.geocities.com/yasurutachi/ninjutsu.html

Are they in some way related to the booj? Reason for asking is in one of the pictures of the Kamiza (see below) the left hand side makimono looks suspiciously like a listing of the nine schools... I can distinctly make out "Kukishinden Ryuu" (?@‹ã‹S?_“`—¬?@?j and "Shinden Fudo Ryuu" (?@?_“`•s“®—¬?@). He also claims the title of "Shidoshi", but yet does not seem to mention the Bujinkan at any point in any of his pages.

Interestingly, in his "About me" page there is a photo of him with Obata Toshishiro and Kimeda Tekishi, whom he says are his teachers.

However, he does not seem to have claimed any background in ninpo/Ninjutsu apart from "Okami Gakko" (is this guy the creator, or merely a teacher?), and I can find no web references to this style apart from this one single webpage. There is a contact address/email on the site so you could try speaking to the guy for more info. Personally, I am a little sceptical about this style not that that means anything at all...

Regards,

Chris.

[Richard Price]

Throwing is our speciality - there are over four hundred throws in our system.

Look how far this guy got thrown.........wowsers.



But seriously, they seem to be doing a bit of a mix of different things and dressing up in kooky outfits.........now, where have I seen that before?

[Mark Brecht]

Ohhh not again, we just discussed this a few weeks back ( I need to find that damm thread).

The dojo in the background is a legitmate and offical Bujinkan Dojo in Canada, it does not belong to the guy in the pics (he was just renting space there, or came in for a workout, when the pics were taken). The shodo on the walls was done by Mieko san (who does our Shodo artwork at Japanese Treasures) several years ago, and was a gift to that BJK dojo.

I have met this guy before oce or twice, however I have no clue about this "Okami Gakko Ryu". Never heard of it before, except from this guy.

[Mark Brecht]

Originally posted by Richard Price
Look how far this guy got thrown.........wowsers.

I highly doubt that was a throw. Looks rather he did a backflip to avoid a front snap kick... Pretty fancy, but hey it was for a pic...

[Chi]

Originally posted by Mark Brecht
The dojo in the background is a legitmate and offical Bujinkan Dojo in Canada, it does not belong to the guy in the pics (he was just renting space there, or came in for a workout, when the pics were taken). The shodo on the walls was done by Mieko san (who does our Shodo artwork at Japanese Treasures) several years ago, and was a gift to that BJK dojo.

Ah. That explains it. Domo, Mark-san!

(Lovely shodo btw!)

Richard: I can't view the picture, but I assume you mean the one where he is backflipping away from the opponent?

Regards,

Chris.

ADDENDUM: I just found the other thread on Okami Gakko... must have missed this one first time round! http://204.95.207.136/vbulletin/show...&threadid=5677

[Richard Price]

Originally posted by Mark Brecht


I highly doubt that was a throw. Looks rather he did a backflip to avoid a front snap kick... Pretty fancy, but hey it was for a pic...

Mark, I know. I was JOKING.

[Moko]

Here we go.

In response to some of my questions the name of the school has changed from Okami to Ookami. Not Okama. I'm pretty sure. That plus there's a ton of crap for a history up there. I append it for your enjoyment. The spelling mistakes are also novel. As is his use of what was the English language.

Robert

A BRIEF HISTORY OF
OOKAMI GAKKO RYU
Ookami Gakko Ryu can trace it's roots to two significant martial art
figures. ITTO ITTOSAI KAGE HISA, and YAGYU MUNEYOSHI. Both men were
founders of martial systems.
Itto Ittosai Kage Hisa founded the Itto Ryu, from the teachings of KAE MAKI
JISAI of the Chiyu Ryu. Jisai had studied under TODA SEIGEN.
To earn menkyo kaiden, and become the first Soke of Ono Ha Itto Ryu, Ono
Tadaaki had to fight a shinken shobu! Tadaaki instructed the second Tokugawa
Shogun, Tokugawa Hidetada. The Shoguns guard also learned Itto Ryu at this
time, and remains the same today.
The book Ittosai Kenpo Sho was written in 1653 and outlines the principles
ans strategy of the school.
After fighting and losing a match to KAMI ZUMI NOBUTSUNA, Yagyu Muneyoshi
began his study of Shinkage Ryu, from the same man the defeated him. From
this he laid the foundation for Yagyu Shinkage Ryu.
Yagyu Munemori was the secong Soke of Yagyu Shinkage Ryu, and instructed the
third Shogun, Tokugawa Iemitsu. The book Hei Ho Kaden Sho was written about
Yagyu strategy around this time.
YAGYU JUBE was the third Soke of Yagyu Shinkage Ryu, and at the same time
created a system of Ninjutsu as an offshoot to the primary school. The
people who trained in this system were the spies, police, and warriors for
the Shogun. Yagyu Jube acted as Soke and served Diligenlty under the third
shogun from 1644-1673.
Ookami Gakko Ryu, is descended from Jube's system of ninjutsu, and follows
many of the same priciples as it's originator. It has grown with the times
to include many new techniques, and methods of thinking to ensure that it,
as its parent art, meets the needs of the practitioner. Be it warrior, or
spiritualist, Ookami Gakko Ryu shows one of the many paths to satori that
many seek. It is not the only path, nor the best path, but it is a good
path.


" THE WAY IS IN TRAINING"

--MIYAMOTO MUSASHI NO KAMI FUJIWARA NO GENSHIN--

[Nikari]

Alright,

It was my understanding that Yagyu Jubei disappears from the official edo records for approximately ten years and then reappears at a Sword Demonstration with his Father and Brother.

There are INFINITE stories about what Yagyu Jubei went through during his ten year stint as Ronin. All we know is that he is NOT on the books, this doesn't even nesscessarily mean he left edo...yet alone founded a Ninja Ryu.

Besides, unless I am incorrect, the Tokugawa Shogunate already had a Ninja police force at that time frame. The descendents, or perhaps the man himself, of Hanzo Hattori.

It would be very easy to claim that Yagyu Jubei founded a ryu ha of Ninjutsu, and probably could have been the case. Like was pointed out in a previous thread, the fact that he uses the term Shidoshi makes him skeptical because as was said in the previous thread this was a term created by Hatsumi sensei.

I myself am in the process of writing a piece of literature about the missing years in Jubei's documented life, it isn't much of a stretch to fabricate a ryu ha...but then again, it is more then possible. He may also be calling himself a Shidoshi so that he would be recognized in the Ninjutsu world...Infinite possibilities...

By the way, didn't Van Damme use the term Shidoshi for his teacher in the movie bloodsport? Fraud is a beautiful thing when employed skillfully.

[Don Roley]

Robert,
Dude.. I noticed your karma dropped to about -11 since the last time I looked. I wondered why and found out that on this thread some guy named "Kaigisha" has managed to post multiple times in the Karma section of your first two posts here. I did not even know that was possible, though I have never tried it.

I quess some people do not appreciate you exposing them to the world. Or did you drop by their school and push them around a bit?

In regards to the Okami Gakko ryu, still no proof that the school ever existed in Japan, or that the teacher of the art actually had a real instructor in ninjutsu has been given me yet. And the pictures on the sight still do not fill me with awe as to their levle of skill.

[Moko]

N'pas de problem

Karma on here has not adversly affected my bank account or taijutsu.

The "Heaven Dog school" of ninjutsu Soke has behaved himself. I asked, er told him not to promote himself as a teacher of ninjutsu and to the best of my knowledge he hasn't. I have students in Sooke (His town) who check. He can teach any type of Samurai skills he wants. I don't care. I also invite him to our Budo seminars. He doesn't show. But then again why a Soke would train with people below his level...

As for Kaigishi I'll ask around and get an sadress. Then I will visit. I suspect I know who it is. These people have lots of guts from behind a keyboard. Less once they are slammed against a wall or two.

And I have recently been promoting a seminar in july. The teacher was soke. Care to guess who put that one up?

Robert

PS

For the rest of you that are reading this thread...Brother can you spare some Karma? Hehehehe! Thanks. Many good men can do more than one coward.

Robert

[Terry Ham]

Btw, why do you post this in the BJK section ??? This post should (probably will) be moved over to the Ninpo (Neo Ninja section

Just wondering,, has or is the ninpo/ninjutsu section being changed to a bujinkan section?