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Thread: Takagi ryu / Hontai Yoshin ryu / Takagi Yoshin ryu jujutsu

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    G'day Mate,

    Thanks for the reply.

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    Hi All

    Daniel you mentioned in your earlier post that Koku from Gyokko Ryu is found in the HYR.

    When you talk about Koku are you refering to a Kukishin Ryu Bojutsu kata or one that is listed as a Jujutsu kata.

    I know the Kukishin Ryu Bojutsu kata called Koku and am very familiar with the Koku of Gyokko Ryu. I would be most interested if you are talking about a Jujutsu kata.

    I dont have a mokuroku for HYR Jujutsu kata so i cant refer to it to compare.

    thanks in advance
    Paul Richardson - Shidoshi
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    Hi Daniel

    thank you, its what i assumed just i wasnt sure, so glad you could you could help
    Paul Richardson - Shidoshi
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    Hi Daniel,

    I'm getting rather confused, but hopefully you will be able to answer my question.

    Are the Tagaki Yoshin Ryu Kata (Koshiki Kata) (ie Kasumi Dori, Do Gaeshi, etc etc) as practiced in Bujinkan/Jinenkan/Genbukan reflected in the curriculum of Hontai Yoshin Ryu?

    You have demonstrated that sets of 'newly formed' kata were produced, but in what capacity if any are the above kata practiced in Bujinkan/Jinenkan/Genbukan practiced within Hontai Yoshin Ryu?


    George Ricard

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    Default Yoshin Ryu and Hon Tai / Takagi Yoshin Ryu

    Hi there

    Could me anybody please tell if there is a relation/ connection between the Yoshin Ryu ( founded by Akiyama) and the Takagi-Ryu
    ( traced back to Takagi oriemon Shigetoshi)
    thank you
    Stefan Marcec
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    Wink Isn't one...

    Hi there.
    As far as I know there is no connection between them other than the name. The Takagi Ryu is slightly older than the better known Yoshin Ryu but only slightly...There are no linked lineages between the two schools (At least not in the line passed down through Takamatsu Sensei that I guess that you refer to..).
    A good read on both schools can be found in Serge Mol's book on Koryu Jujutsu although there is no real emphasis on the Bujinkan/Genbukan lines and the focus stays on the authors own teachers lines...Worth looking at though..And it will clear the relations between these Ryuha up for you more precisely than I can.
    HTH.
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    Default Takagi & Yoshin

    Thanks
    Actually I have the book. Just wanted to confirm it, because the book itself has a quite subjective prespective....
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    As far as I know there is no connection between them other than the name
    Agree with you there Ben!

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    Default Tsutsui Yoshinao?

    I was just browsing buyubooks.com and found a brand new Nihon Kobudo DVD titled "Takagi Ryu Kukishin Ryu jujutsu/bojutsu." It's listed as an enbu by Tsutsui Yoshinao. I've never heard of this teacher and was just curious if anyone has any info on him.

    Thanks!
    Eric Baluja

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    There was a Tsutsui that learned Takagi-ryu and Kukishin-ryu from Kakuno. Maybe he is related to the same person?
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    Dan,

    This is the line that does the rensa sankakubo (three section staff) isn't it?

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    Dear All

    Does any one know anything about Tsutsui Tomotaro and the Takagi ryu lineage?

    Regards

    Richard

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rick3127
    Does any one know anything about Tsutsui Tomotaro and the Takagi ryu lineage?
    He was the successor of Takagi-ryû jûjutsu & Kukishin-ryû bôjutsu (aka Hontai Yôshin Takagi-ryû jûjutsu) from Kakuno Happeita via Ishitani (Ishiya) Takeo. He was married to Kakuno's daughter. Its considered the "mainline" and all other Takagi lines are legitimate branches as well. Within the last 150 years or so you now have about 7 lines of Takagi arts.

    hope this helps!
    Eric Weil
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    Does anyone know what happened to Daniel's posts in this thread, they don't seem to be 'viewable'?

    With respect
    Dean Whittle
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dean Whittle
    Does anyone know what happened to Daniel's posts in this thread, they don't seem to be 'viewable'?

    With respect
    They are deleted.
    George Kohler

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