kokyu

[rottunpunk]

heyhey
im pretty new to aikido-so i know ive got a lot to learn

apart from the usual beginnery stuff-eg stance, being relaxed
im having problems doing kokyu movement. im only ickle-so if someone hold my wrists hard i cant move-there must be a way-so any advice would be greatly appreciated-thanks.

[P Goldsbury]

Originally Posted by rottunpunk

heyhey
im pretty new to aikido-so i know ive got a lot to learn

apart from the usual beginnery stuff-eg stance, being relaxed
im having problems doing kokyu movement. im only ickle-so if someone hold my wrists hard i cant move-there must be a way-so any advice would be greatly appreciated-thanks.

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[rottunpunk]

thank you for the advice mr goldsbury.
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[Andrew S]

The technique is very difficult to explain.
When I saw Igarashi Sensei demonstrate it this year he explained it all in terms of leverage, using sticks to show the fulcrum point and how where you focussed the turning of the writst made all the difference.
Talk to your sensei about it, they'll be much more helpful than any advice in text form.

Deb

On a surface level there are several mechanical means to make the technique work against a linear force. Ask your teacher to show you the mechancis of it. If the opponent is a straight force-your arm can circle around it and down-creating a collapse in his frame. You can also circle or spiral in what appears to be a straight line...right through him. Everyone will tell you you did a straight line when only you know it was a circle. There are several other means to do the same thing you will learn as you soften up and connect to them. I would encourage you to try getting people to train with you and practice outside the dojo. Have each one of you just try to stand up and explore and find ways to collapse each other. Work slowly and relaxed. Its fun-even silly. And you will learn how to connect and read a persons center exponentially. Later you will learn some interestng things in your own body....
A circle can drive a stick- a stick can drive a circle.
Don't make a big circle, don't tenkan-its waste of motion.

As to what Kokyu really was? Has nothing to do with any of that
No.... thing
It is what it says; breath. It is inside you and it is a long road to teaching how to use your body in ways that appear like magic. It is also what Ueshiba was doing.

Cheers
Dan

[rottunpunk]

thats a very nice explanation. thanks.
i tried doing it against a tai-chi dude, but he locked out and i couldnt move-bit his thumb instead-that worked.

i know some of the mechanics of it already-maybe i just have to relax and practice more.

on friday i found that when i concentyrated on not concentrating it worked a bit better.

thanks again for the advice guys

[Dave Humm]

Originally Posted by rottunpunk

im only ickle-so if someone hold my wrists hard i cant move-there must be a way-so any advice would be greatly appreciated-thanks.

Hi Debs

Easier to say than do I realise however, if you are being gripped by the wrist(s) (or any other form of attack) lead your opponent into your technique, do not let that person control you by achieving their goal of actually getting a solid grip upon you (before you actually move)

Their loss of posture will be in part as a result of their continued attempt at grabbing your wrists (or whatever) as you move to execute waza. Provided you are working with some degree of co-ordination with the person attacking, you will control the situation however, if uke is dominating the situation is simply because they have achieved their aim... Often this leaves you fixated with a person holding on to you and feeling you have little opportunity to move them. Which is true because the opportunity passed once uke has clamped on and you failed to move.

Practice, practice and even more practice !!

Regards