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    Yes, George, that's the one I meant. I remember when I first saw the catcher's mask - me in my full-blown romance of pure Japanese culture and I was shocked. But within six months, I'm walking into my own school with lacrosse gloves for free-sparring cause the kendo gloves were limiting the range of my techniques. 'S funny - traditional Japanese culture is, in fact, innovative.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ellis Amdur
    I wouldn't worry about the 68 generations. Usually, such schools have a "chuko no so" somewhere in the lineage if you look - the person who actually founded it.
    Ellis, by chuko-no-so do you mean 中興祖 chûkô-no-so "ancestor who rejuvenated a dynasty of a family"?

    If so I have seen this in some various koryû lineages including some controversial ones. My understanding of it was a person who "rejuvenated or revived" the pre-existing style. People who come to mind are Takeda Sokaku, etc.
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    Eric - Yeah, exactly that. For example, in Toda-ha Buko-ryu, some makimono claim, ridiculously that Tomoe Gozen, the legendary woman fighter of the Kamakura period was the founder. The actual founder, Toda Seigen, is called chuko-no-so. And, Suneya Ryosuke, who really altered Toda-ryu styled Suneya family naginata jutsu INTO Toda-ha Buko-ryu is sometimes also called Chuko-no-so.

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    Well Thomas that's cool.

    About the original question I don't get it. We are not talking about biological generations are we? There's no reason why a couple of people acted as headmaster for only a couple of years or so, that would get the number up. What if some of them died early - say war or maybe they fell victim to a rival jujutsu school?

    Ah well it's monday morning.

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