Quality of a Hoi??

[Martin Allerby]

Hello!

I’m planning on buying a Hoi.
I’ve heard that the quality of the garment differs between different brands. One is less easy to get wrinkles on, but has rougher fabric. Another one has finer fabric but is almost impossible to keep smooth. Is this true or are they all the same? Which one is recommendable to buy?

Grateful for replies!


Best regards,

Martin Allerby, SK GBG
www.shorinji-kempo.org/GBG

[Kimpatsu]

I'd say buy an Ozaki hoi. I have two, and they're great.
HTH. Kesshu.

[Tripitaka of AA]

Equally important is the choice of Mothball. Protecting one's Hoi from the ever-hungry grub of the moth is crucial. Choosing a non-smelly method is to be preferred, but which one works best? I suppose it varies with climate.

[Martin Allerby]

Hello!

Tony: Thank you for your reply!

David: I'didn't quite follow your remark... What is Mothball?

Best regards,

Martin Allerby, SK GBG
www.shorinji-kempo.org/GBG

[Anders Pettersson]

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Gassho.

Hi Martin.

I would follow Tonys suggestion and buy an Ozaki made Hoi. Those are best in my experience. (For dogi I like the Isami SK90 best).

As for mothball I never heard any in Sweden having a problem with moth, atleast not in modern times.

And for Martin an explanation of it in Swedish:
Det betyder malkula, men vi har väl som sagt sällan problem med mal i Sverige.

Och en annan sak, din länk till er hemsida fungerar inte med VERSALER, du måste använda gemener (gbg).

/Anders

[Martin Allerby]

Hello!

Thanks for the explaination! Swedish is sometimes powerful... *SMILE*

Best regards,

Martin Allerby, SK GBG
www.shorinji-kempo.org/gbg

[Tripitaka of AA]

Hi Martin, sorry about "mothball", I didn't notice your location.

Kempo is international, silly English comments about mothballs are less universal. Again, Kaiso used his head when choosing a medium to convey the teachings of Kongo Zen (As far as I know, there are no Stand-Up Comedians spreading Kaiso's teaching, unless you count Tony Kehoe )

[Kimpatsu]

Originally posted by Tripitaka of AA
As far as I know, there are no Stand-Up Comedians spreading Kaiso's teaching, unless you count Tony Kehoe

I'm sitting down.

[Tripitaka of AA]

Tony, does that mean you're studying to be a Rakugo ?

[Kimpatsu]

Originally posted by Tripitaka of AA
Tony, does that mean you're studying to be a Rakugo ?

Well, when people here my jokes, the "go" part certainly works...

[Tripitaka of AA]

Apparently, I should hae said "Rakugo-ka".

It's the traditional Japanese Storyteller/comedian... various TV presenters came from this old style...

[hsuntzu]

I'll add my bit here. I have a Maekawa hoi, and pretty happy with it. Compared to the 100% polyester Ozaki, the Maekawa is 100% cotton, thus the Maekawa airs better but wrinkle lot easier as well as attracts dust. Also, the belt that comes with the Maekawa hoi is lot stiffer than the Ozaki.

Personnally, I prefer the stiffer belt and the cotton (for its airing/breath characteristic). The Ozaki hoi is probably less hassle though.

Does anyone have an Isami hoi?

Gassho

[mikko.virmasalo]

Hi

I don't have first hand experience but I heard that Isami Hoi (sold on kinteki.com) is really "slippery" material and almost impossible to put on.

One of our Branchmasters bought it and him and Mizuno Sensei had quite amount of work to put it on properly...

Does anyone have similar experiences with hoi?

-mikko

[Ade]

Dear All

Gassho

I had mine made here in Britain, tailored to actually fit me perfectly, in pure new wool, so that the creases all drop out when you wear it, and it cost less than buying one of those ill-fitting Japanese black plastic sacks that turn grey with time.
If you want the same just ask, and I'll give you my tailoresses' details.

Kesshu

Ade

PS It's also tacked into permanent wearing position perfectly folded and takes 1 minute to put on!
Read 'em and weep.

[David Dunn]

For dogi, the Isami SK90 is the only sensible choice.

I have a Maekawa hoi, which Cailey gave to me when he stopped being short. It's pure cotton, and hence requires ironing everytime. It's a much nicer material than the non-iron ones. However ironing a load of pleats is not the most satisfying activity, and keeping it nice while you transport it wherever you're going is not easy. Mizuno Sensei has one of the iron-free synthetic hoi, and while the material is not so pleasing to the touch it looks much better for demonstration purposes.

Getting hold of a pair of short dogi trousers for the hoi is essential