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    Default always training for uncertain times in USA

    Training in ninjutsu includes some really different training outlines...
    One is for uncertain times..
    We live in a very crazy world..

    How many of you train for a collapase of the city protection services?

    Or do you feel ninjutsu training is not part of this type of training..???

    Here a photo of a class tonight on BUGOUT BAGS and there use..

    kamiyama, ralph severe
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    Default Actually, not the worst idea.

    Personally, I would say that any practical preparation that can be done in advance to prepare oneself for a civil disaster makes sense these days, at least in America. With any luck, the police and intelligence services are going to be able to continue to intercept saboteurs and other domestic terrorists, but in the one instance where they can't, the result could be a serious case of disruption. The police, fire, national guard and paramedics may have their hands full with fires, injuries, looting, and hundreds of terrified civillians in a stampede. While I would not be inclined towards the premise of going hard-core survivalist, I would say that it is not unreasonable to seriously consider having a backpack ready with various materials including:

    Change of clothing
    Space blanket
    Flashlight
    First aid kit
    water
    folding knife
    cellular phone
    matches and/or cigarette lighter
    duct tape or other binding material
    writing material
    money
    dried nonperishable food (granola, trail mix, etc.)

    and various other supplies.


    Indeed, I would personally like to hear what Ralph has to say in terms of a contents list for his plan of contingency.
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    Red face Where now?

    OK OK, I'll ask the obvious question... if you've got a BOB (Bug Out Bag), have you got a destination in mind? I hope so, otherwise you simply become a refugee.

    I could talk about survival and preparedness, and I do have an interest in such, but that has nothing at all to do with Japanese martial arts (this is starting to look like the firearms thread).

    Later dudes, I've got to check my shadowstick alignment ;-)

    Neil.

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    Being prepared for emergencies has nothing to do with the martial arts?
    No, it has nothing to do with martial arts per se. Would you expect to learn about survival and firearms in an Aikido or Karate class? No? Then why is it ok in the x-kans in your mind?

    Off to collect some nettles for a brew, soup and to make some cordage.
    Neil.

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    It does make sense to an extent, just always reminds me of the 'bunker couple' in 'Tremors'....
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    Default Be Prepared?

    Ask yourself that same question: what is the philosophy of the Bujinkan? Of Ninjitsu?
    Well, the BSA (American Scouting organisation) has the 'Be Prepared' philosophy, but that doesn't mean they are all taught firearms and each carry a bugout bag around with them, just in case there's any civil unrest.

    I think the two sides of the pond will disagree to a large extent on what is taught in the dojo (martial arts) and what is taught outside of it (firearms/survivalism/etc).

    Practice it, but take it outside the dojo I say.

    Mmmm, this nettle soup is nice... want to try my dandelion root coffee?

    Neil.

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    Originally posted by Sharp Phil
    What a pack of grasshoppers. "Look at that ant! He's wasting his time working! That's so silly and paranoid."
    I look at that picture and see a bunch of people sitting around playing at boy-scouts when they could be working . You know, working up a sweat. At Japanese martial arts.

    I'd be royally POd if I signed up for MA classes only to spend time sitting around talking about survivalist fantasies.

    Get on the mat and train, for pete's sake. The other stuff can be learnt elsewhere.

    Cheers,

    Mike

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    Default Training on the mat

    Well said Mike, thats what I've been trying to say all along, but politely

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    Default Re: Be Prepared?

    Originally posted by Neil Richardson


    Well, the BSA (American Scouting organisation) has the 'Be Prepared' philosophy, but that doesn't mean they are all taught firearms and each carry a bugout bag around with them, just in case there's any civil unrest.
    There is a rifle shooting merit badge, though it's not an Eagle scout requirement. Wilderness survival is also an elective, and both merit badges are offered at most council summer camps.
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    If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.

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    I remember when I worked on a Boy Scout camp in Wisconsin they did shootin.

    I just had this thought of old ladies being forced at gun point to cross the road.
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    Well, what can you say, obviously they know something we don't, fancy sharing the infromation with us guys, after all, us brits are along side you at the moment, and it would seem a bit rude, not to let us in on any of this information

    mark

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    Hi

    i am at a lose here to see what this has to do with Ninjutsu.

    i dont think it has a single thing to do with it at all.

    i can understand if you lived in some parts of the world why you may wish to undertake such readiness, but why discuss it in a martial arts board and try to claim it is Ninjutsu is way off the track.

    ralph I think you need to be asking these question on some survivalist forum not an MA forum.

    I have seen plenty of shows on TV in the UK and USA where they have these wackos who live in the cities and wilderness preparing for some sort of disaster.

    the average american will in there life time never encounter such a disaster. Apart from a few eartquake sin California you have only had 3 other serious malicious disasters.

    Pearl Harbour
    Oklahoma
    Twin Towers.

    Just what are you preparing for.

    Your all paranoid about nothing.

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    I think we should give Girl Scouts guns

    the sales of cookies would rocket over night




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    Mr. Severe's from Texas, guys.

    That's just what they do in Texas!

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    i totally see the point of doing survival exersises and and beeing prepared, though in some cases it definatly crossed the line to paranoia.
    anyway, whats next ? cooking classes ? well, sure eating has to do with ninjas. they ate all their life. they had all this special protein and carbohydrate diets...

    there are places for people to learn it and when i look around in the buj and checking the bugei juhappan...there is a looong way to go and most people might be better off working their way through what is actually taught.

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