Likes Likes:  3
Results 1 to 15 of 15

Thread: Dillman and Hogan

  1. #1
    Join Date
    Sep 2006
    Location
    Manchester, UK
    Posts
    428
    Likes (received)
    2

    Default Dillman and Hogan

    Apologies if this has been addressed before, can anybody tell me who the teachers of George Dillman and Jack Hogan were?
    Simon Keegan 4th Dan
    www.bushinkai.org.uk

  2. #2
    Join Date
    Aug 2002
    Location
    Gardena
    Posts
    2,842
    Likes (received)
    0

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Simon Keegan View Post
    Apologies if this has been addressed before, can anybody tell me who the teachers of George Dillman and Jack Hogan were?
    Hello Simon !

    According to this site: http://www.dillman.com/about.asp


    Dillman began serious martial arts training in 1961 with Harry G. Smith. He went on to study with Daniel K. Pai, Robert Trias and Seiyu Oyata. Dillman has always considered himself a student, never a master of the martial arts. To this end he and his students have traveled throughout the United States to meet and train with various martial arts experts.
    Prince Loeffler
    Shugyokan Dojo

  3. #3
    Join Date
    Sep 2006
    Location
    Manchester, UK
    Posts
    428
    Likes (received)
    2

    Default thanks

    Thanks Prince, my Google Jutsu is obviously weak today
    Simon Keegan 4th Dan
    www.bushinkai.org.uk

  4. #4
    Join Date
    Aug 2002
    Location
    Gardena
    Posts
    2,842
    Likes (received)
    0

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Simon Keegan View Post
    Thanks Prince, my Google Jutsu is obviously weak today
    No problemo mate ! I am a self proclaimed ten dan in google ryu...
    Prince Loeffler
    Shugyokan Dojo

  5. #5
    Join Date
    May 2000
    Location
    Boston, MA USA
    Posts
    705
    Likes (received)
    0

    Default Not for much longer...

    Quote Originally Posted by Prince Loeffler View Post
    No problemo mate ! I am a self proclaimed ten dan in google ryu...
    There is a thread in the Lounge... you can be legally recognized as a 10th dan in googleryu

    Be well,
    Jigme
    Jigme Chobang Daniels
    aoikoyamakan at gmail dot com

  6. #6
    Join Date
    Sep 2006
    Location
    Manchester, UK
    Posts
    428
    Likes (received)
    2

    Default

    In my style of Google Jutsu (Yahoo-Ha Google Ryu) it goes up to 15th Dan but some say that 11-15 are just phases of 10th Dan, but I'm just a white belt with a red Tab key.
    Simon Keegan 4th Dan
    www.bushinkai.org.uk

  7. #7
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Location
    Victoria, Texas
    Posts
    145
    Likes (received)
    0

    Default

    Jack (Hogan) has told me that his introduction to Kyusho came from Dillman. Jack was associated with Dillman for many years and was a close friend and affiliate doing seminars together along with other Dillman Black Belts per his report.
    Here is Hogans site: http://www.jackhogankarate.com/
    Last edited by Jitsumania; 29th July 2008 at 16:03.
    Rick Torres, Dojo Cho
    Integrity Defensive Arts
    Victoria, Texas
    www.ksrjujitsu.com
    [/B]

  8. #8
    Join Date
    Jul 2006
    Location
    Ronkonkoma, NY
    Posts
    11
    Likes (received)
    1

    Default

    He didn't have as much interaction with Oyata as many would believe. A few seminars he attended and then some photo shoots for some magazines to help promote Oyata's art. Most senior Oyata students say Dillman came out of left field and faded just as quickly.
    Raul Perez
    Nidan - Ryukyu Kempo (Oyata Lineage)
    <a href="http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=main/7/20912231297.jpg&s=f10" target="_blank"><img src="http://f10.putfile.com/thumb/7/20912231297.jpg" alt="Click to enlarge."></a>

  9. Likes Nuoli liked this post
  10. #9
    Join Date
    Jul 2006
    Location
    Minnesota
    Posts
    163
    Likes (received)
    3

    Default

    Oyata stated in one of the magazines that Dillman was never his student. That he only attended several seminars. Dillman also claimed to have recieved a "secret scroll" from Hohan Soken who he also never trained with. Add all that to the rest of is claims.
    Duane Wolfe

  11. Likes Nuoli liked this post
  12. #10
    Join Date
    Aug 2008
    Location
    Wigan/Warrington
    Posts
    10
    Likes (received)
    0

    Default

    Can anybody tell me who the teachers of Simon and Dave Keegan were?

  13. #11
    Join Date
    Aug 2002
    Location
    Gardena
    Posts
    2,842
    Likes (received)
    0

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Alan McDonnell View Post
    Can anybody tell me who the teachers of Simon and Dave Keegan were?
    Mr Mcdonell ! This thread is about Dillman and Hogan. Please ask your post in a different thread !
    Prince Loeffler
    Shugyokan Dojo

  14. #12
    Join Date
    Aug 2008
    Location
    Wigan/Warrington
    Posts
    10
    Likes (received)
    0

    Default

    Dear Moderator you have my sincere apologies, and I thank for your suggestion

    Alan McDonnell

  15. #13
    Join Date
    Nov 2008
    Location
    Florida
    Posts
    8
    Likes (received)
    1

    Default Dillman

    in the past Mr. Dillman had been photographed( and supposedly promoted with the following)
    Takazawa Masano ( KeiShinKan)
    Shimabukuro Kichiro (Isshin Ryu)
    Soken Hohan ( Matsumura Seito)
    That is why many of the Okinawans that I have known will beg off on photos with people outside of their associations.
    Many times to solve the problem of suspected claims, the addition of a senior student in a photo can confirm or deny the claims of an individual.
    There have been times in the past when Kise Fusei( My sensei) was asked to have a photo taken with some one out side of KenShinKan, he would ask for one or more of us to be in the photo with him and the requester......most times there is no problem.....but every now and again......the requesting person takes it pretty hard and express there un happiness.
    By the way back in the 1970's , I was a member of the Keishinkan, and had witnessed Mr. Dillmans ploy first hand.

  16. Likes Nuoli liked this post
  17. #14
    Join Date
    Aug 2002
    Location
    Duncansville, PA.
    Posts
    84
    Likes (received)
    0

    Default

    George Dillman started in judo in about 1960 in Reading, PA. not far from my hometown. I started judo in 1967. By the 1970's he was all over Black Belt magazine with his Dim Mak art.

    His claims have been the topic of literally hundreds of threads on the internet.

    Peace

    Dennis
    Dennis P. Mc Geehan
    Everyday presents new challanges and opportunities to learn!

  18. #15
    Join Date
    Jun 2000
    Location
    Brisbane
    Posts
    248
    Likes (received)
    0

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Judokax8 View Post
    By the 1970's he was all over Black Belt magazine with his Dim Mak art.
    I'm sorry, this is simply not true.

    Quote Originally Posted by Judokax8 View Post
    His claims have been the topic of literally hundreds of threads on the internet.
    With good reason, too...this is very true.
    Patrick McCarthy
    International Ryukyu Karate-jutsu Research Society
    http://www.koryu-uchinadi.com

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •