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  • Muso Shinden Ryu

    44 24.72%
  • Muso Jikiden Eishin Ryu

    55 30.90%
  • Tamiya Ryu

    7 3.93%
  • Hoki Ryu

    4 2.25%
  • Mugai Ryu

    22 12.36%
  • Katori Shinto Ryu

    21 11.80%
  • Shinkage Ryu

    8 4.49%
  • Suio Ryu

    12 6.74%
  • Tatsumi Ryu

    4 2.25%
  • Toyama Ryu (or other Nakamura Ryu)

    19 10.67%
  • Shindo Munen Ryu

    2 1.12%
  • Take No Uchi Ryu

    4 2.25%
  • Sekiguchi Ryu

    2 1.12%
  • Seigo Ryu

    3 1.69%
  • Other

    23 12.92%
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Thread: Which Iai Koryu do you do?

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    it would be interesting to see the breakdown of votes for MJER alone.... I see many 'variants' due to the fragmentation of the ryu (due mostly to the sheer numbers of people who practise).
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    Ooh, that's an interesting idea, Chikodan! I know the two main MJER branches are Tanimura-ha & Shimomura-ha, but have also run into students who train in Yamanouchi-ha & Sekiguchi-ha, although from what I've seen the kata differences are pretty manini (small). Maeda-Sensei trains us in Tanimura-ha, BTW.

    Are there any more branches/twigs?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ken-Hawaii View Post
    Ooh, that's an interesting idea, Chikodan! I know the two main MJER branches are Tanimura-ha & Shimomura-ha, but have also run into students who train in Yamanouchi-ha & Sekiguchi-ha, although from what I've seen the kata differences are pretty manini (small). Maeda-Sensei trains us in Tanimura-ha, BTW.

    Are there any more branches/twigs?
    Yamauchi-ha is a subset of Tanimura-ha, and Sekiguchi-ha is a subset of Yamauchi-ha. I believe Harasuke-ha (the late Haruna sensei, now Oshita sensei, Ohmi sensei, etc.) and Masaoka-ha (Jikishinkai, etc.) are also offshoots of Tanimura-ha. There are also parallel lines of Tanimura-ha (Hokiyama-ha/Seitokai, Iwata sensei/Roshukai, etc.). Does anybody besides Iwata sensei do Shimomura-ha? Does Iwata sensei even teach it anymore?

    The differences vary between teachers let alone branches and range from minor to "Are you sure that's Eishin Ryu?" What I have been shown of Shimomura-ha is quite interesting and helps shed some light on where MSR derived some of their techniques.
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    I have found one old guy in Kochi who still practises shimomura ha, and we are trying to find out if he will teach a class. I had Iwata sensei show me the differences a few years ago... they are quite interesting and you can see how MSR has picked up these points, although they are not exactly copied, but the roots of the ideas are there. One in particular I do like is the way the saya is handled. By flipping it totally upside down during nukitsuke, the kurigata doesnt stick out, so if you don't position the saya correctly, you don't run the risk of hitting your arm on it. The reach during nukitsuke is emphasised, so lots of hanmi and a slight hip twist, and you need to cover a lot of ground. Some of the 'variants' I had actually previously learnt as kae waza, so now I practise them all with the relevant points as a seperate 'exercise'.
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    The trouble is that the more granular you make the survey, the less results you will get back (in absolute number) and the less accurately representative will the survey be.

    As it stands it is hardly an accurate representation now as it only captures:

    a) those people that read Ebudo or Kendoworld forums AND
    b) could be bothered to take part in the survey AND
    c) practice one art more dominantly than others thus allowing them to tick only one

    As they say, there are lies, damned lies and statistics...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy Watson View Post
    ...As they say, there are lies, damned lies and statistics...
    And as we all know, 37.5% of all quoted statistics are completely fabricated.
    Yours in Budo,
    ---Brian---

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    Just a lickle bump up in case people hadn't noticed this poll...

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    As soon as i have my Iaito i will start with Iai-Jitsu.
    These are the styles practiced in the Dojo where i also practice Jiu-Jitsu:
    - Muso Jikiden Eishin Ryu
    - Tamiya Ryu
    We also use Ken No Kata as a base for other techniques but i have yet to learn what that means and/or Is.

    Can't wait to gather the money for my Iaito and order it from Japan.

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