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    Ok I'll go with that...Seems fair logic.

    9th Dans:
    Ronnie Colwell 9th Dan
    Stan Knighton 9th Dan
    Steve Arneil 9th Dan (1961)

    8th Dans:
    Terry Wingrove 8th Dan (1957)
    Andy Sherry 8th Dan (1959)
    Tommy Morris 8th Dan (1963)
    Michael Randall 8th Dan (1964)
    Peter Consterdine 8th Dan (1964)
    Roy Stanhope 8th Dan (1965)
    John Smith (Bujinkai) 8th Dan (1965)
    Peter Spanton 8th Dan (1965)
    Bob Poynton 8th Dan (1965)
    Ticky Donovan 8th Dan (1965)
    Tony Christian 8th Dan (1965)
    Hamish Adams 8th Dan
    Philip Kear 8th dan (1965)
    John Van Weenan 8th Dan

    7th Dans:
    Rob Kear 7th dan (1965)
    Reg Kear 7th dan (1965)
    Charles Mack 7th Dan (1958)
    Terry O'Neill 7th Dan
    Billy Higgins 7th Dan (1965)
    Brian Fitkin 7th Dan (1965)
    Howard Collins 7th Dan (1964)
    George Grimes 7th Dan
    Cyril Cummins 7th Dan
    Simon Keegan 4th Dan
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    hmmm..No doubt Bob Poynton will be very pleased to hear of his promotion to 8th dan. When was he promoted and does Andy Sherry know about it?
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    Question

    Before I get corrected. I dont know if he started pre 1965, but as you mention Kyokushin, what about Steve Arneil, 7th Dan as far as I remember.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wreddock View Post
    hmmm..No doubt Bob Poynton will be very pleased to hear of his promotion to 8th dan. When was he promoted and does Andy Sherry know about it?
    Everyone makes mistakes
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    Quote Originally Posted by lancepjones View Post
    Before I get corrected. I dont know if he started pre 1965, but as you mention Kyokushin, what about Steve Arneil, 7th Dan as far as I remember.
    Wikipedia says 1961
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    Revised list. Ticky Donovan moved up, Bob Poynton moved down.
    once again, if anyone has any amends, please copy, paste and amend the list.


    9th Dans:
    Ticky Donovan 9th Dan (1965)
    Ronnie Colwell 9th Dan
    Stan Knighton 9th Dan
    Steve Arneil 9th Dan (1961)

    8th Dans:
    Terry Wingrove 8th Dan (1957)
    Andy Sherry 8th Dan (1959)
    Tommy Morris 8th Dan (1963)
    Michael Randall 8th Dan (1964)
    Peter Consterdine 8th Dan (1964)
    Roy Stanhope 8th Dan (1965)
    John Smith (Bujinkai) 8th Dan (1965)
    Peter Spanton 8th Dan (1965)
    Tony Christian 8th Dan (1965)
    Hamish Adams 8th Dan
    Philip Kear 8th dan (1965)
    John Van Weenan 8th Dan

    7th Dans:
    Bob Poynton 7th Dan (1965)
    Rob Kear 7th dan (1965)
    Reg Kear 7th dan (1965)
    Charles Mack 7th Dan (1958)
    Terry O'Neill 7th Dan
    Billy Higgins 7th Dan (1965)
    Brian Fitkin 7th Dan (1965)
    Howard Collins 7th Dan (1964)
    George Grimes 7th Dan
    Cyril Cummins 7th Dan
    Simon Keegan 4th Dan
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    One more came to mind today- Eddie Daniels of Shukokai.

    The following is from his SKF website:
    'Shihan Eddie Daniels started training Karate in 1965 and was a member of the All-styles British Squad from 1970 to 1975.

    In 1968 having trained in first Shotokan then Wado Ryu, Shihan Daniels changed style to Shukokai and trained under Master Kimura until Master Kimura's untimely death in 1995.'


    Edit;

    I then came across this gentleman, Charles Gidley from the Shotokan karate Kyogi:
    'Charles Gidley sensei, 7th Dan, started karate training in karate in 1963, becoming an active and founding member of the Karate Union of Great Britain under Enoeda sensei, where he stayed for 22 years.'
    Last edited by Chucky; 16th November 2010 at 16:22.
    Yours in Budo
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    Cheers Graham, those are great additions.

    What about Nick Smith (Wado Ryu, Burnham on Sea) - any idea if he should be on the list?

    All the best
    Simon
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    9th Dans:
    Ticky Donovan 9th Dan (1965)
    Ronnie Colwell 9th Dan
    Stan Knighton 9th Dan
    Steve Arneil 9th Dan (1961)

    8th Dans:
    Terry Wingrove 8th Dan (1957)
    Andy Sherry 8th Dan (1959)
    Tommy Morris 8th Dan (1963)
    Michael Randall 8th Dan (1964)
    Peter Consterdine 8th Dan (1964)
    Roy Stanhope 8th Dan (1965)
    John Smith (Bujinkai) 8th Dan (1965)
    Eddie Daniels 8th Dan (1965)
    Peter Spanton 8th Dan (1965)
    Tony Christian 8th Dan (1965)
    Hamish Adams 8th Dan
    Philip Kear 8th dan (1965)
    John Van Weenan 8th Dan

    7th Dans:
    Charles Gidley 7th Dan (1963)
    Bob Poynton 7th Dan (1965)
    Rob Kear 7th dan (1965)
    Reg Kear 7th dan (1965)
    Charles Mack 7th Dan (1958)
    Terry O'Neill 7th Dan
    Billy Higgins 7th Dan (1965)
    Brian Fitkin 7th Dan (1965)
    Howard Collins 7th Dan (1964)
    George Grimes 7th Dan
    Cyril Cummins 7th Dan
    Simon Keegan 4th Dan
    www.bushinkai.org.uk

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    Nick Smith?

    How do you know of Smithy?

    Just curious as he is my longest friend in Karate. (Nearly 30 years).

    I'm afraid he started in March 1974, so won't make the list.
    Yours in Budo
    Graham Chuck

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    my first karate teacher steve bullough is from lancashire but he used to stay with his grandparents in burnham for the summer. I think he trained with nick smith i would imagine about 1981. I'm not sure how long for, not very long i would imagine. His main teachers were in wigan but he's mentioned nick smith to me. My criteria is a bit frustrating, i admit. My two main teachers bob carruthers 7th dan and reiner parsons 6th dan don't make the list because they've trained since 1972 and 1974 respectively. but i needed some criteria to keep the hanshi bungas off the list!
    Simon Keegan 4th Dan
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    Quote Originally Posted by Simon Keegan View Post
    my first karate teacher steve bullough is from lancashire but he used to stay with his grandparents in burnham for the summer. I think he trained with nick smith i would imagine about 1981. I'm not sure how long for, not very long i would imagine. His main teachers were in wigan but he's mentioned nick smith to me.
    Simon:

    I'll ask Nick tomorrow as I'm at his Dojo.
    What a small world!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Simon Keegan View Post
    My criteria is a bit frustrating, i admit. My two main teachers bob carruthers 7th dan and reiner parsons 6th dan don't make the list because they've trained since 1972 and 1974 respectively. but i needed some criteria to keep the hanshi bungas off the list!
    Then you should have said anyone who started before 1984

    Best wishes
    Chucky
    Last edited by Chucky; 20th November 2010 at 16:31.
    Yours in Budo
    Graham Chuck

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    Graham
    Sent you a private message
    cheers
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    Default Slightly ammended list

    If anyone has any started-training dates for the ones I haven't got, please fill in the blanks.

    9th Dans:
    Ticky Donovan 9th Dan (1965)
    Ronnie Colwell 9th Dan
    Stan Knighton 9th Dan
    Steve Arneil 9th Dan (1961)
    Michael Randall 8th Dan (1964)

    8th Dans:
    Terry Wingrove 8th Dan (1957)
    Andy Sherry 8th Dan (1959)
    John Van Weenan 8th Dan (1963)
    Tommy Morris 8th Dan (1963)
    Peter Consterdine 8th Dan (1964)
    Roy Stanhope 8th Dan (1965)
    John Smith (Bujinkai) 8th Dan (1965)
    Eddie Daniels 8th Dan (1965)
    Peter Spanton 8th Dan (1965)
    Tony Christian 8th Dan (1965)
    Hamish Adams 8th Dan
    Philip Kear 8th dan (1965)


    7th Dans:
    Charles Gidley 7th Dan (1963)
    Bob Poynton 7th Dan (1965)
    Rob Kear 7th dan (1965)
    Reg Kear 7th dan (1965)
    Charles Mack 7th Dan (1958)
    Terry O'Neill 7th Dan
    Billy Higgins 7th Dan (1965)
    Brian Fitkin 7th Dan (1965)
    Howard Collins 7th Dan (1964)
    George Grimes 7th Dan
    Cyril Cummins 7th Dan
    Simon Keegan 4th Dan
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    Default another slight ammend

    If anyone has any started-training dates for the ones I haven't got, please fill in the blanks.

    9th Dans:
    Terry Wingrove 9th Dan (1957)
    Steve Arneil 9th Dan (1961)
    Michael Randall 9th Dan (1964)
    Ticky Donovan 9th Dan (1965)
    Stan Knighton 9th Dan (1965?)
    Ronnie Colwell 9th Dan (?)

    8th Dans:
    Andy Sherry 8th Dan (1959)
    John Van Weenan 8th Dan (1963)
    Tommy Morris 8th Dan (1963)
    Peter Consterdine 8th Dan (1964)
    Roy Stanhope 8th Dan (1965)
    John Smith (Bujinkai) 8th Dan (1965)
    Eddie Daniels 8th Dan (1965)
    Peter Spanton 8th Dan (1965)
    Tony Christian 8th Dan (1965)
    Hamish Adams 8th Dan (?)
    Philip Kear 8th dan (1965)


    7th Dans:
    Charles Gidley 7th Dan (1963)
    Bob Poynton 7th Dan (1965)
    Rob Kear 7th dan (1965)
    Reg Kear 7th dan (1965)
    Charles Mack 7th Dan (1958)
    Terry O'Neill 7th Dan
    Billy Higgins 7th Dan (1965)
    Brian Fitkin 7th Dan (1965)
    Howard Collins 7th Dan (1964)
    George Grimes 7th Dan
    Cyril Cummins 7th Dan
    Simon Keegan 4th Dan
    www.bushinkai.org.uk

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