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    Default translation please

    i seem to have misplaced some of my notes. Can someone please help?

    There is a famous quote by Kenwa Mabuni, "Karate-Do is a lifetime study"
    how is this said in Japanese (romanji)?

    Thank you!
    ~Tony Johnson

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    Default Translation

    My Japanese isn't very good, but I think it would be something close to:

    Aru jumyo no chosa wa karate
    Jason G. Bilodeau

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    Default Alternate translation/commentary

    Fairly new to Japanese myself, so here's my analysis:

    Japanese is subject-object-verb (typically). In "Aru jumyo no chosa wa karate" it appears that:
    Aru - verb, to exist (for inanimate objects)
    Jumyo - lifespan
    No - indicates the object
    Wa - (written as "ha") indicates the subject
    Karate - the subject
    Chosa - I wasn't able to find a definition, the closest was chosaku, meaning book/writing

    From this i would suggest "Karate-ha (pronounced "wa") jumyou hagemimasu"

    Hagemu = to endeavor

    I actually might use Hissei in place of jumyou. It means "lifetime". Also, perhaps tsutomeru would be a better verb. (to make a great effort).

    There are so many nuances that I don't yet understand.

    Maybe someone will come along and correct me?

    Jason Flint

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    There are many ways to say it in Japanese, but I don't think you guys are really close, sorry to say.
    Lance Gatling ガトリング
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    Long as we're making up titles, call me 'The Duke of Earl'

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    Hello Johnson San,



    Karate do is my lifetime study


    唐手道は私の生涯学習です。

    Karate Do wa watashi no shougai gakushu desu.

    生涯 Means lifetime

    学習 Means to learn

    My sensei used to say , ’Bujutsu wa watashi no jinsei desu!

    My life is Bujutsu!



    Dozo yoroshiku onegai itashimasu

    Sincerely,

    Duke Meade

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    I hadn't considered using "study" as a noun, but that makes more sense, now that I think about it. I didn't use "watashi-no" because I was not translating as "my', but as "a" lifetime.

    Lots more to learn.

    Jason Flint

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    I used to train in Mabuni sensei's dojo (near Bentenchou) when I lived in Japan some 20 years ago but I don't remember the quote from that time (though I have seen it later).

    I do recall a similar quote:

    空手は生涯武道です
    Karate wa shougai budou desu
    Karate is a lifetime martial art

    Hope this is of help
    Guy Buyens
    Hontai Yoshin Ryu (本體楊心流)
    BELGIAN BRANCH http://www.hontaiyoshinryu.be/

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