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    Crossposting from Ed Calderon's site for the video:

    http://edpoint.tumblr.com/post/13408...being-armed-is

    Worth a watch - please note the soldier being ambushed is carrying gear and a rifle, and initially cannot get to it. May never have if a bystander had not helped. The rifle is a long weapon and hard to bring to bear at such close quarters if not already mounted, or if the muzzle has been averted.

    It appears that the soldier may access his own short blade (and folks they need to be short, a 12 or 24 inch tanto or near kodachi is inefficient at body-to-body contact while in the midst of a grapple) to "cut the attacker off of him" before he gains space and transitions to rifle.

    While neither appears to be a highly skilled grappler there is some technical stuff going in. Skill at grappling is an essential platform for this kind of thing.

    It goes without saying that no matter the era....even when the weaponry is different - certain dynamics at close range stay the same.
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    Here is another one - as we are starting to see “inspired” attacks here in the US, this may not be that long in coming for American LE.

    Don’t think its just “terrorists.” The video here shows what could be a routine contact for any LEO: arms-length away from a suspect, our brains occupied with either looking at ID, running a subject, or writing in our notebooks and BAM! The attack occurs...

    In the (choppy) video here the suspect in the yellow vest draws a knife and begins a blitz attack. He is only stopped eventually by another person coming over and shooting him.


    http://www.breitbart.com/jerusalem/2...eatedly-stabs/

    Some learning points I shared with our folks, minus some specific tactical suggestions:

    1) In standard day-to-day contacts LE simply cannot help letting people get that close. When doing so, keep in mind that officers are at a considerable initiative deficit if the subject draws a weapon (gun or edged weapon) and begins using it - or even simply barrages the officer with empty hands.

    Officers should be mindful they are behind the curve in each and every one of these instances.


    2) Having a gun does not in any way mean that one will be able to get to it or use it. If a suspect maintains initiative in a blitz in a case like this, the officer will likely never even get your gun out, not to mention that even they get hits on the subject they may not be incapacitating.

    Often the key to being able to access one's own weapon in a situation like is an ability to turn the tide via personal defensive tactics skills - by knocking the subject down or knocking him back.

    3) Notice how much time the soldier spends on the ground. The reality is that when so blitzed, the immediate reaction of most people, even those with regular training, is going to be to backpedal and even turn away from the attack. We work in the real world, not on smooth mats. Rough and uneven surfaces or changes in surface (concrete to wet grass, for instance) often cause a loss of footing.

    That’s when you end up on the ground and the suspect can be emboldened by this and increase their violence...

    Basic functionality and movement on the ground is an officer survival imperative, including being able to draw a weapon and use it when there, especially when a violent attacker is looming over or sitting atop an officer. Its even more difficult in body armor and with a heavy duty belt - which the attackers will NOT be burdened with, so having ground defense down (pardon the pun ) is the best chance for survival one has in this kind of attack.

    These things underscore that despite the incompatible views that the tactical shooting and martial arts communities often have (in the former, that a gun and armor and the like will protect you and prevent such attacks, and in the latter, that there is "nothing you can do" if the person has a gun), that it really boils down to a practical understanding and use of concepts such as sen, maai, and others. These constants always remain, and though technical skill and weapon type and gear are factors it is the mastery of these things in the moment that is often what spells victory or defeat.

    Our own Budo Bum recently asked whether we are studying "only techniques." This is one example of why that is a valid question in the modern world of armed violence as much if not moreso in the pursuit of budo.
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    And an example from the US:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDF67zLLTLE
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    It seems as though a very significant portion of our training should be from an initiative deficit. Very difficult and humbling stuff to train. I personally practice default cover sometimes (though not nearly with enough regularity) but really ought do more training where someone is starting way behind the curve. Starting where contact has a dominant physical position, dominant physical position and a knife in action, opponent begins with weapon drawn and bearing down; beginning pinned against a wall or vehicle... there are many ways to investigate these kinds of problems. The hard part is getting the work done. There's a 2016 resolution for ya: The Year of Initiative Deficit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by allan View Post
    It seems as though a very significant portion of our training should be from an initiative deficit. ....Starting where contact has a dominant physical position, dominant physical position and a knife in action, opponent begins with weapon drawn and bearing down; beginning pinned against a wall or vehicle... there are many ways to investigate these kinds of problems.
    And if you really think about it, you are describing how many old kata begin..... starting with patterning of effective responses, then breaking the kata and allowing uke freedom to continue to attempt to dominate the encounter in a force on force manner is among the best way to train for this kind of thing.
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